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12-15-12  01:07pm - 4390 days #9
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Of course children die daily in traffic accidents, from medications, from AIDS, from wars, from brutality and neglect but let's not haul out statistics in a case like this.

This is one time to let your desensitized, self-protective guard down a bit and think of forty parents who sent their children off to school in the morning and will never see them again. This is an enormous tragedy and not just a "man bit dog" story. Anyone I know who is a parent is almost in a state of shock over this mass killing because, for once, we feel someone's pain. Except the parents and grandparents and siblings feel it a million times more.

12-14-12  12:37pm - 4391 days Original Post - #1
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As a parent and grandparent I am grief stricken over the death of so many children, as well as adults, in an elementary school in Connecticut. When will America come to its senses and exercise more control over weapons that have only one purpose (forget about target practice) and that is to kill people.

The argument is forever being made that it is not guns that kill people, that it is people that kill people. But ten mass shootings in the U.S. in one year should make every American, no matter how conservative, sit up and say something has to be done no matter what the political cost!

I know that mass murder can happen in other countries as well but the horrifying scale of it in the U.S. should not be acceptable to such an otherwise civilized country.

Sorry for bringing controversy into this forum but today iI am not only grieving, I am enraged that this could happen to little, trusting kids .. and influence negatively the lives of the surviving kids as well.

I still bear the scars of WWII. I know what violence can do to a child's psyche. Please, start talking about stricter controls of your murderous weapons my American friends and forget about your 2nd Amendment rights for a change for the sake of the greater good.

12-12-12  10:04am - 4393 days #28
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Ummmm, lemme think how I can put this?
Gimme just a moment! ....
OK...
I've met a respectable number of women, from a lotta different places, even some Aussie beauties who globally dwell literally on the very bottom of where I'm now standing; heard a lotta talk, and I, likewise, done a lotta talking ...and, from my own experiences, using every ploy at my disposal in an effort to succeed at seduction .... and, I might add, the few who did acquiesce, I can say without equivocation, not one....nay not one, who wouldn't go up side my head if I called them a whore, slut, pig, or any other names synonymous with the ones mentioned in this thread .... whether before, during, or after engaging in a sexual activity.

Nor would I expect otherwise.


I would judge by your reply, graymane, that you had quite a few casual dalliances .. see "respectable number of women!" In their case I too would be very careful about sounding derogatory or demeaning. Not knowing them thoroughly might lead to a slap in the bedroom if you overstep the line, and rightly so.

I am talking about long established LOVING relationships where the partners like to play bedroom games. Some of those games may seem bizarre to others but are highly stimulating and satisfactory to the partners.

I mean on the surface a man crawling around on his hands and knees while his wife smacks his rear with a whip could be considered abusive (no I'm not into that ) but is a source of pleasure to both, if they swing that way.

Same with name calling.

I, too, am horrified when a woman is casually called a whore or slut or bitch. This is exactly what motivated me to make this post. There is a certain dignity to every human life and that dignity should not be casually violated. However in the bedroom everything goes if "playing mutually satisfactory games" enhances a couples sex life. At least that has always been my view.

12-11-12  07:03pm - 4394 days #23
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


Messmer, this one is always hard to believe for some. A lot of woman like for their man or lover to refer to them as a slut. It's most likely from a past of repression. Being seen as "dirty" in a good way, probably comforts them, turns on those dormant hormones. I still remember reading a story in Hustler years ago about a woman who couldn't get wet with her husband. She had been raised in a Catholic home and school. A psychologist suggested her husband to scold her and spank her, problem fixed.


I completely agree with you, exotics. This is exactly why I wrote to Pat in my lengthy, general response to all:

" ... in real life it is quite possible to get carried away in the heat of passion and use a bit of roughness, or dirty language. If that is acceptable, even desirable to both partners I have no problem with it."

This would not be demeaning to anyone. Nothing like bringing a bit of spice to the bedroom. I am all for it and wouldn't draw any lines as to what is acceptable or not if BOTH partners enjoy their fantasies. Three cheers for variety!

12-09-12  10:31am - 4396 days #16
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Beautiful does not always mean exciting to me! Objectively this model is gorgeous but when I download a set of pictures or two it is usually of a much plainer, housewifey, mature woman. And if her breasts sag a bit, so much the better. Edited on Dec 13, 2012, 12:14pm

12-09-12  10:24am - 4396 days #20
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Originally Posted by elephant:


Yeah I do think its great that this site promotes porn in a good light, it does get some bad press and some people believe it to be truly the worse thing ever, it clearly is not and can be highly entertaining. To have a place discussing it and talking about models in a respectful manner too and keeping conversations in general to a high level of respect for each other makes this a place to come back too. So many places online turn into these places where you think, some of these people really are nasty and spiteful and people having arguments and stuff and slagging everything and everyone off. No need for it, here is a friendly place and because there is so many friendly folk I think it keeps out the bad. Long may it last, also great moderators keeping it all running smoothly.

Me neither, I do like all kind of niches in porn and do love hardcore but don't like it when the woman looks uncomfortable and is being badly treated like she is nothing but a hole. Much prefer movies when the woman clearly looks to be having a good time.


I agree with you, elephant! You know, I have been with this forum since 2007 (I think) and have often wondered why there has never been a flame war? That usually happens sooner or later in other places where even "friend" turns against friend. And I am positive that management does not censor or moderate except to remove obvious phoneys who try to promote their site, so this consistent harmony is even more miraculous. We've had the odd disagreement at times but never any personal attacks. Long may this spirit live.

12-09-12  10:17am - 4396 days #19
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Just fell in here somewhat late.....but, messmer: so fine an input about this "Strange Land".
I agree totally: love porn - but love porn in the nice, civilized and exotic way.......I worship women/girls - and hate the thought of naming any girl/woman: bitch, slut or whore.

And BTW, yes: probably, no definitely this PU is the most civilized and friendly forum, I ever been in.




Thanks, Denner, you summed it up nicely!

12-09-12  10:15am - 4396 days #18
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Originally Posted by Micha:


When I hear or read a grammatical error, I notice. I also listen to what is being said, and often the content is worth ignoring the error. If English is a second language ... well never mind then. I shudder to imagine my relatives' reaction to my German.

hint: a preposition is something it is OK to end a sentence with.


You should imagine my relatives' reaction to my German, Micha. After 56 years in Canada I am neither fish nor fowl. I meet a Canadian for the first time and he'll ask, where were you born (even though my wife swears I have no accent ) and every time I go to Germany for a visit I am being asked if I am an American!

12-08-12  06:41pm - 4397 days #13
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Thanks, Micha, for the kind words. This is a good forum with a lot of good-natured and tolerant people participating. At first it was a surprise to me as well because out there in Porn land (as well as in various forums and newsgroups) things are not always kind and gentle. Glad we had the pleasure of adding you.

To the Cap'n. I love using English as my second language yet, at the same time, I am insecure enough to constantly wonder (or should that be "to wonder constantly?" ) how many grammatical mistakes I make in my average post. I can't let that stop me though because you (the group) are the only company I have except for my immediate family. Truly!

12-08-12  03:46pm - 4397 days #15
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Well, in response to a couple of comments above, I would rather give up on collecting videos than put up with non-HD material. I must say though that there are some 640x480p scenes that are reasonably nice in quality, however most are blurry in full window which is the only way I watch videos, and that turns me off.

BTW, Pat, if you should have a fairly new smart TV with built-in Wifi would Netflix streaming be counted by your ISP as bandwidth used? I have watched so many movies and TV shows over the past month that the bill would be outrageous if my Service Provider charged for usage once I go over a certain amount. Edited on Dec 08, 2012, 06:59pm

12-08-12  03:40pm - 4397 days #7
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Originally Posted by bibo:


Guys, the surgeon in charge here was no other than Dr.Photoshop.
The shape of her breasts, the round edges on the inside with the unnatural shadow areas are clear indicators for fakes. Just check this pic and tell me you're still not convinced. :D

http://www.watch4beauty.com/issue-24-oct...ting-dana-harem.html


I am convinced, bibo and wish they would stop doing that to themselves.

12-08-12  10:57am - 4397 days #5
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^I don't know if you are correct but they look real to me. If they aren't then her surgeon is to be commanded because he did an amazing job and she didn't get z cup size too big for her body type.


I agree that it is hard to tell if they are real or not, Pat, that's why I was being careful and called them too perfect rather than enhanced. Fake or natural, that type of breast is never to my liking. To me smaller (not tiny) will always look better. But that's me. The model IS stunning!

12-08-12  10:51am - 4397 days #10
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^I have also been a member of these sites but maybe I'm way off but I don't think the people producing their porn actually use most of the offensive words when describing the performers. They may sometime use it in the scene and even that in my memory is on the rare side but they don't refer to girls in those words. The only exception would be FA but then again. I think the guys responsible for that site are major scumbags.


I was thinking of the covers where they quite frequently use derogatory terms, Pat. Often it even starts with the title of a DVD. I could name dozens of instances but will give you that point because most likely the performers knew in advance what the DVD would be named. And I am glad you agree when it comes to FA. I kept telling myself it was all an act but the cringe factor was such that I deleted all the scenes the moment I had watched for a couple of minutes.

12-08-12  10:45am - 4397 days #3
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Originally Posted by Denner:


A newer star of W4B........amazing.

http://www.watch4beauty.com/issue-08-dec...inter-is-coming.html


I agree with you when it comes to her face, Denner. However I would prefer her breasts to be a bit less perfect. Maybe a size smaller with a touch of a droop? Yummm!

12-08-12  10:31am - 4397 days #8
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Thanks to all of you for your positive comments and moral support! It's good to know that so many in here feel the same way I do. Of course, I always knew that.

Thanks, Cap'n and Claypaws, my first responders! And Claypaws you are fortunate to have ended up with a company I hold in high regard. I have never seen a demeaning word come from ATK and consider them to be one of the good guys.

To Pat I would say this:

I do want to correct one possible misconception because I don't want to appear to be a hypocrite. I have subscribed to quite a few hardcore sites myself, have enjoyed quite a few scenes that could be considered abusive, but have never taken offense because I realized that the performers were playing into our fantasies and did it willingly. I have been a member of Kink.com, of 21Sextreme etc., so "hardcore" material itself is not a problem to me, except on some sites like Facial Abuse where the verbal degradation seems too real for comfort.

My beef is with the vultures who produce the DVDs and put that kind of garbage on their covers, as well as those who distribute them, like VB. Yesterday triggered me because VideoBox's HD update was referring to the "whores" in the DVD and I found it disgusting that those who make a profit off those performers would use such demeaning terms for them. And many Porn Users see this and imitate the sites' degrading terms when commenting on various scenes.

Thanks, biker. I certainly agree with you. The anonymity of the Internet brings out the worst in people who would normally keep their nastier side hidden because of peer pressure.

Graymane, what can I say except that I am always touched by your responses to my posts and am grateful for your friendship.

Last, but not least, thanks to my friend Drooler, who always manages to lighten my mood with a couple of lines that make me laugh, even in my outrage. As you may have noticed earlier on in my reply I wasn't actually thinking of scenes in a DVD, because even in real life it is quite possible to get carried away in the heat of passion and use a bit of roughness or dirty language. If that's acceptable and even desirable to both partners I have no problem with it.

As I wrote above my problem is mainly with the producers or distributors of hardcore DVDs speaking so contemptuously of the ones who make the money for them. And with the Yahoos who imitate their degrading language in their comments.

In any case, thanks to all, and I enjoyed getting things off my chest. I am still waiting for that one softcore site that would cater to my niche because I find more eroticism and excitement in one well-done strip scene (not as in strippers), than I do in the worst (or best according to your taste) VB could offer.

m. off the pulpit for another day!

12-07-12  01:19pm - 4398 days Original Post - #1
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With apologies to Robert A. Heinlein for stealing his book's title:

This is how I feel when moving in the wonderful world of Porno. I love porn, I buy porn, I collect porn ... yet the only place in this raw and uncensored world where I don't feel unclean is right here.

I have never met a more civilized, courteous bunch of people than in Porn Users .. and it's not the first time I say this .. I love your company, consider many of you to be "friends" in the detached, on-line sense, yet the moment I go to a site (other than softcore) I find myself in the company of foul-mouthed snooks that make me cringe, especially when in reference to the "actresses."

VideoBox (as one) in their description of videos, consistently refers to them as sluts, whores, bitches. Users in their comments are not one bit shy about using similar expressions and I feel, not for the first time, that I am slumming and moving in circles I don't belong to. Are we an elite here? Am I a snob for saying this?

I guess what it boils down to is that I love women, even the ones in the sex trade, too much to belittle and degrade them by calling them names and am looking forward to the day when I can return to softcore sites that feature mature women in enticing lingerie ... you knew that would come, didn't you? Edited on Dec 07, 2012, 01:46pm

12-06-12  11:59am - 4399 days #3
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Congratulations, marcdc1! You must have also set a record when it comes to the time it took you to acquire the badges! Amazing output on your part that I couldn't ever hope to equal.

12-04-12  10:26am - 4401 days #27
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Originally Posted by graymane:


As you already know, comrade messmer, I'm one of your enthusiastic cheerleaders, and my pom-poms are-a-waving an' I'm doin' back-flips down the sidelines in support of this one. (thread)

Sigh! Same-ol'-same-ol' .....Seems we're Always fighting' a never-ending battle with these close-minded gold diggers ... although we who chant for mere improvements are many, the studios remain entrenched with the power of holding what we want, exercising greed, caring not and letting our cries relentlessly fall on deaf ears.
But ....
Hang in there, warrior .... "the word is mightier than the sword." ummm, eh, whomever authored the latter, I must hasten to add: ..... Whether you can attach said quote to anything having to do with this dilemma is any body's guess ....... jus' popped in to my mind, though, an' wouldn't let go.

BTW.... allow me, if you will, to seize on the moment here to reiterate an ongoing rant of mine that continues to aggravate another festering sore brought on by apparent airheads who run some of these sites and who're imposing some of this worthless crap onto their members:
Namely ..... arbitrarily incorporating still photo shoots in video clips we aren't paying for, or wish to see.
Example: ... I click on a particularly tempting solo scene expecting to see this delectable babe give me some moves that'll wake up my arthritic libido, only to be deflated by seeing just flashbulbs poppin' all over the place and my "babe" posing completely motionless sporting a big smile as she exchanges quips with the cameramen and crew.



Hey, graymane, thanks for your input and moral support. I never know whom to blame when it comes to the present drought in teasing through a prolonged strip!? I tend to take it out on the web owners and photographers but surely they wouldn't push something that is so unpopular with most of us here if it wasn't the taste of the majority of their subscribers. It is my theory that extreme youth has invaded porn as subscribers, and most of them have never heard of lingerie except for thongs, so to them it is normal not to see something slinkly and enticing.

It is also in the nature of youth to want to go straight to the "money shot" (in this case full nudity) and forget all those foolish, time wasting preliminaries that go with a full strip.

There are exceptions to my theory, of course. See one of the responses above that definitely was NOT by a young cub.

11-30-12  01:18pm - 4405 days #9
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^ I guess what it boils down to is resistance to change. I never thought that day would come because I always liked the new.

For instance, I attempted to read Time Magazine on my tablet .. hated the experience. Played a couple of sample movies from VideoBox .. hated it!

Am not the type to play "Angry Birds" or "Solitaire" very long these days, or watch "YouTube," so 7" and 10" are good for one thing (for me): rather than hold a five hundred page in my aching, straining hand I can now prop up my Kobo Vox or Acer tablet against a pillow and read without a strain on eye (because font can be adjusted) or wrist. I must say even then it took a bit of getting used to reading this way but now I do more reading than I have during the past ten years. Thanks, Kindle and Kobo for that. Sorry, didn't mean to butt in on your conversation with Pat please continue on!

11-30-12  12:03pm - 4405 days #7
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I got a Kobo Vox 7" tablet/reader last Christmas for a gift, decided very quickly that 7" was too small for me and upgraded to a 10.1" Acer Android tablet, and still found the screen too small for my liking. Others find the picture and movie quality on these tablets just great, but for me, it has become a glorified reader and a quick late-night way of looking in on Porn Users and that's about it. If I ever buy anything portable again it will be a lap top.

11-29-12  02:20pm - 4406 days #16
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I don't know why it wouldn't sound good through headphones. It could just be the headphone jack, a certain setting buried somewhere in the TV's menus (like a choice of headphones or speakers or external sound, etc.), or maybe the headphones themselves. The problem with watching porn on a big screen is that you probably don't want to pipe the audio through a sound system unless you live in a house with at least a little space between you and your neighbor's place.


These smart TVs are also getting complicated, turboshaft! I have yet to find a way to mute the sound while wearing headphones. I have to turn the TV sound way down and adjust the volume through the headphones. If I turn it up through the TV, not only do I get sound through the phones but from the TV as well. There is no way of switching to headphones from speakers, my only option is speakers. Got you confused yet? Who knows the solutions to all these little problems may be in the menu somewhere I simply haven't come across them yet. BTW, I also found out by (gasp) reading the manual that I could play wmv files through the TV. However the manual stipulates that they have to be wmv9. Know any sites that carry wmv9 files?

11-28-12  10:04am - 4407 days #14
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I've had the same problem with my PS3 and there are a number of workarounds. For most HDTVs and "smart" TVs (as opposed to the ones held back a year in school) there's a lot of information you can find on various tech sites about all the proper color settings, audio settings, and other adjustments you can fine tune to make your favorite porn, er, non-adult movie look its best.


Thanks, turboshaft, I'll have a look. My only problem so far with this smart TV is that I cannot get a very good stereo sound through my headphones generally. I could with its dumber cousin! Good news in other respects, I wrote earlier on that my 720p files played in a smaller window only but found a way, in the meantime, of viewing those HD files in full picture as well .. and they look good!!

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I agree, though it's frequently left me at times feeling like a gynecologist-in-training (because they mostly use porn videos, right?).
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I agree, though it's frequently left me at times feeling like a gynecologist-in-training (because they mostly use porn videos, right?).


I don't mind being an amateur gynecologist as long it is not at the expense of all the other views and angles!

11-24-12  10:45am - 4411 days #11
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:


You know that .MP4 is just a wrapper for a variety of Codecs? Many codecs (such as h264) have a variety of options such as interlacing, bitrate, reference frames etc.
Televisions support an increasing number of codecs and options, but it's very unlikely that your television supports all of them, especially the latest variations.

I doubt the website supplying the videos is deliberately blocking their videos playing on televisions. I can't even think of a reason why they would do that.


Thank you, Ed. And I believe you are right. It has to be a missing Codec on my TV. Since I found out, to my delight, that it even upgrades itself periodically I'll give the non-playing mp4 files some time and try them again sometime down the road.

11-23-12  06:16pm - 4412 days #14
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Originally Posted by graymane:


LOL ..... (you'll rarely see me using this abbreviation cuz the written word has long passed that would elicit that level of outburst) however, Congrats. you're a winner.

Pantyhose and nylon turn me off like a toothless warthog.
An' yes, we're still friends. Jus' a matter to agree to disagree.
Cotton panties dug so deep in my consciousness as a hot-blooded kid growing up that its ingrained to taking precedence over all else. Ya gotta understand that was IT in underwear, and as close as we got to see what covers that forbidden moist terrain that I craved so desperately to get my teeth into (literally)
Alas, I may as well wish to find the end of a rainbow.


It is marvelous how our later tastes are so often influenced by what we saw/experienced in our youth. I guess I was a late bloomer because, by the time I got my first glimpse of a pair of panties, cotton had gone out of style and nylon was King (or Queen). I remember that back in my childhood everything was cotton .. and in my case, it was the scratchy kind! No fond memories there.

11-23-12  10:52am - 4412 days #9
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


It's not over yet ... so how 'bout them PUey Awards?

Any chance we'll see 'em again before the world ends?



I think Wittyguy has left the building, Drooler. Which would be a real shame. Those awards were great even though I threw a temporary snit over one of the remarks at the time. Come back, Wittyguy, I promise never to do that again!


11-23-12  10:47am - 4412 days #12
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^I'll go along with you ... partially, graymane. We watched a movie from the fifties the other day and both my wife and I burst out: My God, women looked so pretty in their dresses back then! But I vehemently disagree when it comes to the "cotton panties." In our day it was nylon, perlon, rayon, silk, satin, rather than cotton. I see nothing exciting about cotton or another later invention, pantyhose! Hope we'll remain friends!

11-22-12  01:52pm - 4413 days #5
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A Very Happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends!

11-22-12  01:42pm - 4413 days #10
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Maybe somewhat waywardly unconventional, 'ol buddy (as are all we pervs)... but you ain't nowhere near that person wearin' that bag over his head.

But, given the fact you are, indeed, an extraodinary author....one could get the idea da-man does kind'a push the envelope in his passionately unrelenting internet pursuit of "mature women" and specific application of tasteful underware and lingerie....


Thanks, graymane, once again you are too kind, and I am grateful that I can take off that bag now!

I just wish that my relentless pursuit of mature women in lingerie would finally show some results! Sigh!!! I am getting the feeling that web owners just aren't listening to me! How humbling!

11-22-12  01:35pm - 4413 days #9
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Originally Posted by Ergo Proxy:


Recently I came across some stories which were immensely satisfying for my perverted mind. Maybe I will try some writing myself but I am afraid I lack a lot of talent there.


Just let your libido guide you, EP, your grammatical or spelling errors will be between you and your word processor. I can assure you I don't create any master pieces myself, but writing is something that has always been in my blood, and I don't restrict myself to writing sexual fantasies alone. As a matter of fact writing was an integral part of my second career. Too bad that my aging brain is doing so much to defeat me these days as I keep groping for words I knew all along but which just won't materialize on demand any longer. Except for half an hour later when I no longer need them!

11-21-12  06:32pm - 4414 days #115
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^ Great joke, CT. I loved it!

11-21-12  06:31pm - 4414 days #47
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Originally Posted by Claypaws:


Probably not. If you tried, they would probably arrest you on suspicion of being suspicious. If you succeeded, models would probably be more suspicious of why you could not get references from models instead of the police.

Ah, now if could do a photoshoot with a policewoman....


I am starting to really appreciate your sense of humour, Claypaws. May you never leave this forum!


11-21-12  06:29pm - 4414 days #20
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Originally Posted by Claypaws:


You SHOULD and it was MEANT to be

I tried doing a shoot without a model but I got bored and fell asleep.


LOL .. again! I felt guilty about laughing in connection with the sentence that preceded it because I felt your frustration!! It sounded a bit like gallows humour.

11-21-12  06:26pm - 4414 days #6
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Thanks for your quick replies, guys. I think RB might be right about the codecs so I'll just let it rest there. After all, I have plenty of mp4 files from 21Sextury/Sextreme and Young.Legal.Porn etc. that will work on my TV to keep me occupied for the next 6 months.

11-21-12  06:21pm - 4414 days #5
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Originally Posted by Claypaws:


No doubt someone who knows about TVs will chip in. My guess is that it depends on whether the mp4 video is 1080/50p or 1080/60p and whether you are on a PAL or NTSC TV set respectively.


Thanks, claypaws. The site was North American and my TV operates on the North American system (NTSC?) so I don't think that was the problem.

11-21-12  03:11pm - 4414 days Original Post - #1
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I am ecstatic in connection with my new TV and the fact that I can play 1080p mp.4 movies with crystal clarity through a USB port. I have noticed though, to my regret, that some sites' videos will not play.

Can they embed something in the file that will stop it from playing on a TV but, more importantly, why would they do that? Couldn't that mean increased business for anyone who features high-grade HD videos in their archives? Some folks like their Porn 42" BIG!

This is one of the reasons why I just re-subscribed to Bangbros. yesterday, even though most of their content leaves me cold. They advertised 1080p HD updates in their tour and I thought I'd grab some videos containing models in attractive lingerie.

Trouble is I am still trying to find a 1080p download. All I get is 720p. Drat, I wish there were a present subscriber among us who could guide me to the 1080p downloads!! I threw out a comment to that effect yesterday but nobody even nibbled on that one.

But to get back to the original question. If DRM is gone, then what is stopping some sites' HD mp.4 videos from playing on my TV while most sites are doing just fine?

11-21-12  12:48pm - 4414 days #17
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Originally Posted by Claypaws:


The difficulty of getting enough models even at this level is the only thing that would make me give up. After all, the model is a fairly essential ingredient of the process!


One would think so! I shouldn't laugh but that WAS funny!

11-21-12  10:12am - 4414 days #15
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Originally Posted by Claypaws:


I agree entirely with the 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 concept and that is what I personally prefer too. (In fact, I think I expressed that preference elsewhere).

US Magazine. At this level, there is open leg and the hands are spreading the genitals but without insertion of fingers or toys.

In the UK, the great majority of models will not do any "Adult" levels. That is, they will not model at any of the three numbered subcategories of "adult" that I have described.

Within model resources, the most common sentence in portfolios is "No adult. I will not do any open leg so please do not ask". This is frequently in block capitals.


I know this is in response to the Cap'n but the above is basically what I am looking for, Claypaws, and, boy, will you have a hard time finding a model that suits the subscribers of Galleria if most U.K. models refuse to do "adult!" I found that, generally, sets without open leg scored very low unless the model herself was absolutely stunning and got points on looks alone.

No wonder you sound frustrated about all the hard work in finding models and setting up shoots! I have seen all the negative remarks in the various ATK sites I have subscribed to every time a model was too bashful about spreading, or if she did spread but tried to hide this behind her hand!

I wish you loads of luck and congratulations on the publication of your first set.

11-20-12  02:11pm - 4415 days #4
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I handle "what you can never have" through the written word. I either go to places like Literotica, ASSTR etc. to get my fill of improbable, if not downright perverted fantasies, or I write them myself.

Writing is a hobby of mine and allows me to bring into existence sex scenes that are meeting my libido's needs exactly. Some can be pretty bizarre, but I have the comfort of knowing that they are harmless because it's between my keyboard and me and no one is affected by even my wildest dreams.

Okay, call me weird if you must!

11-19-12  10:45am - 4416 days #9
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Whilst there is very little material out there for me these days, I do try to make a point of being supportive whenever I can.

Cap'n.


As you know, that is true in my case as well, Cap'n. I stray into other areas from sheer boredom but our niche remains sadly under-represented.

11-19-12  10:40am - 4416 days #13
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


And Messmer, good luck getting those leaks fixed.


It is going to be an awful mess, Drooler. They discovered that it wasn't the roof at all but a drain pipe allowing the accumulated water to drain from our flat roof after a heavy rain fall, and it is located DIRECTLY OVER OUR BATHROOM! So tomorrow they are going to create a huge hole in the ceiling in order to get at the corroded pipe. I hope they won't use any welding equipment in fixing it. Most of our maintenance men are the usual Jack of all trades and masters of none, so anything could happen.

11-19-12  10:33am - 4416 days #35
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Originally Posted by Claypaws:


I am making all sets fully clothed to fully nude and with plenty of tease on the way. That has always been my preference. There are occasions on which it is appropriate to start in lingerie though.


Bless you, mate! May you be very successful in your endeavors and bring some class to Galleria. Many will disagree with me but I found most of their sets aggravatingly bland. So I wish lots of beautiful models upon you, who wear enough clothes to make a strip worthwhile.

And may Galleria never decide to edit your sets so that they will end up looking like most of their others, as in: three items of clothing taken off before the first page of the set is half done!

DO they do any editing or do they accept your work as is?

I know one thing, if you become a regular contributor to ATK Galleria and they don't attempt to change your way of shooting, I will once again be a subscriber down the road!

No need to answer, your new "employer" might not like what I had to say and take it out on you if he/she doesn't like your reply.

11-18-12  10:04am - 4417 days #2
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I agree with you about this site and its benefits, gpl! Since 2007 I have made it a habit of subscribing to a site through TBP 95% of the time. There have been a few exceptions when I got a really exceptional offer by a site through email, but I found most of the time that those offers are really no better than going through PU/TBP because they are usually for a month only and if you stay on turn out to be more expensive than if you had done business through PU.

11-14-12  10:11am - 4421 days #10
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Thanks for all the helpful answers, guys. I gotta go because I live in a top floor apartment whose roof has developed a serious leak during rain storms .. and it is pouring at the moment with workmen drilling holes and making a general mess in order to find out where the leak is located. See you in a day or so!

11-13-12  03:49pm - 4422 days #3
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Originally Posted by Khan:


I fear my answer is going to come off as a non-answer.

You see, we have no real preference as to how networks are handled. It's very much up to the individual user as to how *they* prefer to handle it. In practice, I've seen it handled a number of ways.

Some users are content to review only the main network site. Others do a full review of the main site and maybe submit short reviews of other key sites w/in the network. Still others submit reviews for most (if not every) site w/in a network. This last one seems a bit excessive *to me* but I'm sure confident arguments can be made for the benefits of that way of handling it.

Obviously, to review a site it'd have to have its own listing page.

Also note, we don't like to see reviews w/ elements cut-n-pasted from another submission. So, if you're going to write separate reviews, write separate (and unique) reviews) Oh, and if you're saying basically the same thing a for a number of sites, you shouldn't expect to earn the max points/raffle tickets. Although we've been pretty generous to date with this as long as it seems each review was written from scratch.

So, rather than ask me, you might want to see how your fellow users reply to this one. They can better tell you how they prefer to see it handled. Oh, and we never tell a user how to assign points to a review. We provide the general guide seen on the submission page but that's not (in any way) enforced.

Sorry I couldn't give you a more specific answer. Hopefully, you'll see some other replies that'll give you a better answer.


Thanks for taking the time to answer, Khan. At least now I know the official position .. and I am very much looking forward to the input of my fellow forum members or anyone who likes to do reviews.

11-13-12  03:15pm - 4422 days #8
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Originally Posted by Horndog:


Could you please name some site names please, messmer? I just don't like paying to look at clothed women. I can do that anytime for free! Everybody is different. I guess one person's opinion of too much nudity is another person's opinion of not enough nudity. My attitude is one can't have enough nudity as long as there is at least variety in the poses.


LOL. You don't need for me to give you the names of any sites, Horndog. Let's just say "all of them, except one!"

PS. Just in case you misunderstood. I am not looking for pictures of fully dressed women, I am looking for pictures of fully dressed women getting slowly and teasingly undressed, preferably clad in some nice slinky lingerie, until they are completely nude. I, too, love nudes but would like to see some balance, as the Cap'n wrote. Edited on Nov 13, 2012, 03:19pm

11-13-12  02:30pm - 4422 days Original Post - #1
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I've reviewed a few sites that belonged to a network myself but always wondered how to rate them.

Should not the whole be rated and some of the pluses and minuses of its various sites be mentioned in one main review for the whole network, rather than doing reviews and rate each site within that network as if it stood by itself?

E.g. If I went to many of the sites at 21Sextreme and reviewed them individually then their score would suffer severely because they have been dormant since 2009 (just an example) and the quality is not so hot.

But if I were to review the whole network my score would improve because the sum of the network is fine and I see those sites as an extra bonus.

Another thing, how do you give a fair rating to a bonus site that is not part of a network?

There was a review today (super.skinny.girl) that scored one of these sites extremely low, without taking into consideration that it was only a small part of a larger site,
"Young.Legal.Porn."

If one looked at that site first and reviewed it would one not add an extra point or two on the strength of that "bonus" they provide, even though the content is limited?

BTW, the review was fine I am simply questioning the scoring and review of "bonus" sites?

What do you say, Khan?

11-13-12  11:14am - 4422 days #13
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Originally Posted by graymane:


Thanks, Khan, for bringing us this important thread.

Having served with the 508th Airborne during the early '50's, (on a memory-etched occasion) being prepared for, but through perhaps Devinne intervention, I was pulled from a combat jump at the last minute that my division made on the other side of the Atlantic, amid heavy artillery and small gunfire, costing the lives of many to whom I'd grown close and trained with ... this reminder adds special significance to extolling them the highest honor possible -- and to all who've followed.


Just curious, graymane, did you mean the Pacific? I only remember one war in the early fifties and that was in Korea. But then I am getting forgetful and maybe there was an armed conflict somewhere in Southern Europe?? Not trying to be annoying just can't remember combat in Europe at that time.

11-13-12  11:07am - 4422 days #5
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Originally Posted by Capn:


As you know, my friend, I am with you on this one.

Although I may have been quiet of late, I am still on my crusade.
Few Webmanagers pay anything other than lip service.
I still cherish the few that do.
Whenever I do kick off on a subject, I usually get a fair ration of support, so there is potentially a market there for those that wish to exploit it.

Cap'n.


I know you are, Cap`n! If the opinions in connection with the subject (expressed now and in the past) are any indication the pendulum should swing the other way soon. Trouble is, there is no sign yet that it will do so, except for the promise I got from one webmaster. See above.

11-13-12  11:04am - 4422 days #4
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Good point, messmer - and maybe, just maybe - that's the reason why quite a few here are fed up with only "wham-bam-thank-you-mam" - sites....this user is one!


Thanks for the moral support, Denner, but it seems strange that quite a few of us in here are fed up with all the cookie cutter porn in pictures and videos, yet this is not reflected in what most sites offer. We`ve got to be a tiny minority, or the market would reflect more of our taste and less of that `wham-bam-thank-you-mam porn you are talking about.

11-12-12  06:14pm - 4423 days #6
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I joined the Canadian Forces in 1986 ... sex, generally, is a topic frowned on in the messes...


Not in my day, young 'un. When I joined the Navy in 1958 all we talked about in the messes was sex!

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