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02-13-13 11:17am - 4330 days | #23 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, Khan, I feel a lot better now that the raffle is deactivated. What makes me feel even better are your kind and supportive remarks. | |
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02-13-13 11:15am - 4330 days | #22 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Hey, wittyguy, I am glad you stuck your head in for this one because we all sure miss you. As you may guess I am staying right here, now that I don't have to feel guilty about the raffle. To me it was a big thing and I am glad it is out of the way until (hopefully) my libido returns and I start subscribing to sites again. I have the feeling that won't happen but one never knows. | |
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02-12-13 09:59am - 4331 days | #13 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Guys, I am really touched by the many replies to my post. I had no idea I would be missed by so many. I know that I would miss you for sure. And I really don't want to leave this Forum. My problem was with a possible raffle win if I no longer contributed at least something to TBP through the odd subscription. It would make me feel like a parasite. However Khan's answer reassured me greatly and this Forum is truly "home away from home" so consider my tearful farewell cancelled. I wish I could answer each and every one of you, because that would be the right thing to do, but I really think I would run out of steam (on some days I am stronger than on others) before I was halfway through with thanking you. Well, if anything good came out of my post it is the knowledge that I have so many friends here. And, Khan, if JB's testosterone supplements should work for me, who knows, I might just start subscribing again, but until that happens I would like to withdraw from eligibility. I just wouldn't feel right about winning in a raffle and by doing so rob someone else who supports this site in a more tangible way of the pleasure. Continued access to this forum (and the polls and this site in general) is much, much more important to me! Thanks from the bottom of my heart to all of you. | |
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02-11-13 02:21pm - 4332 days | Original Post - #1 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I really think that this is IT! No matter what I look at leaves me bored, be it photo sets or videos .. I have seen it all over and over, with the only niche that would really interest me being totally absent from the porn world. I blame part of this indifference on getting jaded and desensitized, but after having gone through a dry spell for over a month without experiencing the slightest interest in downloading anything from most sites I subscribe to, and worse yet getting no particular kick from my treasured porn stash either, I really think that age has finally caught up with me. Strangely enough written erotica still manages to do its job because my imagination provides what visual porn producers cannot, so all is not dead yet, but since it appears unlikely at this time that I will subscribe to any more sites through PU (unless a miracle should happen) I shall de-list myself shortly. I consider this to be only right and fair since there is always a chance that I might accumulate enough tickets to win a raffle through a comment or two, and I would feel too badly about a win if I weren't able to reciprocate somehow. It has been a real privilege and pleasure to know all of you and I thank you for the many entertaining hours you provided me within this Forum, with a special thanks to Khan for always being there for us. May you continue to have great fun being collectors of the fine arts! I know this sounds a bit over the top but you have truly been my only daily company beside my wife so I cannot overstate how much I shall miss the participants of this Forum, so my warmest goodbye to all of you and I shall miss you. For a bunch of pervs you're great! m. | |
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02-02-13 03:04pm - 4341 days | #1013 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
There's no way they are going to write Mikael Blomkvist out of the sequels. He is an integral part of the story. The fans of the written trilogy would take to the barricades. The threat of doing so is just a negotiation tool. Those who think it can be done have never read the books. | |
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01-31-13 04:13pm - 4343 days | #80 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks for the tip, JB. Vicky's breasts look great but I must say that Lily's come as close to perfection (in my eyes) as any I have ever had the pleasure to see! There's that little sag to them I am always talking about! | |
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01-31-13 04:09pm - 4343 days | #79 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, CT! | |
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01-31-13 11:30am - 4343 days | #75 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, jb, for getting us back on the right track. If I had to talk about perfect breasts it would be Lily Lebeau's. Too bad I no longer subscribe to Naughty America because I never paid attention to her. Is she present on any other site? | |
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01-29-13 06:36pm - 4345 days | #7 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
^ Looks as if I have to start watching South Park! | |
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01-29-13 06:25pm - 4345 days | #16 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
You're my kind of guy, RB! I let them have it, too, in no uncertain terms .. to the great embarrassment of my wife who doesn't like scenes. But someone has to speak out! Too many indifferent or cowed consumers out there! Edited on Jan 29, 2013, 06:28pm | |
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01-29-13 06:16pm - 4345 days | #70 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Puh-lease, do not in any way associate me with Mitt! I guess I should have written PICTURE sets of large breasted women. Boy, you are as sharp as a tack, turbo .. won't let me get away with anything! Well, my excuse is that English is my second language, what's Mitt's?? | |
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01-29-13 12:20pm - 4345 days | #68 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Well, after your friendly invitation at the poll how could I resist, CT? Seems to be a friendly place. I only hope that my being so opinionated won't rub folks the wrong way once I start posting in earnest. | |
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01-29-13 12:17pm - 4345 days | #12 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Well, a bit off the subject but not by much. I noticed at the time of my latest subscription through Epoch that they now added taxes (CA $ 3.00) to the basic subscription rate of US $ 14.95 with both dollars being equal at the moment. Not too long ago it was a straight conversion from US $ to CA $ and that's how it showed up on my statement. Some new law, perhaps? | |
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01-29-13 11:59am - 4345 days | #66 | ||
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
No, I don't think I ever mentioned "infantile" anywhere, except that I might have made a sarcastic remark about North American "boys" seeming to prefer big breasts, even augmented ones, as compared to other countries where "regular, natural" is usually the norm.
As I wrote above my preference would be a "b" or "c" cup with a bit of a sag, but I have collected sets of large breasted women as well. Large or small, breasts are nice as long as they are natural. | ||
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01-28-13 07:01pm - 4346 days | #62 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Tell the truth I never tied the love of smaller breasts or shaved pubes to latent pedophilia but I know what you mean, someone with an evil mind might just suspect you (one) of that. But at least there is a possible explanation for this preference even though it would be wide of the mark with most. While I have absolutely no explanation why some prefer two inflated, perfect spheres, shiny and oversized, sticking out from a chest. In any case, my preference in breasts would be middle aged, medium sized with large nipples, and with a bit of a heavenly sag to them. Maybe I am a bit too much of a realist, maybe I like to build my fantasies on real people and not the glamorized ones, who knows. | |
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01-28-13 06:45pm - 4346 days | #61 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
This is exactly how I feel. I love all sizes from very big to bee stung but they have to be natural. It is the unnatural roundness and firmness of surgically altered breasts that is the turn-off. | |
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01-28-13 10:12am - 4346 days | #12 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Only 33 grandchildren? Someone is not pulling their weight!! | |
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01-28-13 10:09am - 4346 days | #57 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Actually turboshaft did not exactly endorse my expression, he only said that it was one way of looking at it. And the few Freudians that are left would agree with me. | |
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01-27-13 06:56pm - 4347 days | #54 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I hate it when models do that to themselves, but I dislike even more all those many, many kids who don't mind looking at fake breasts as long as they are big. Sometimes I get the feeling that they got stuck in their infantile stage. My suggestion would be a mass deportation to a place without internet access to porn, something like Northern Mali, to give the scales a chance to balance in favor of natural, and then allow them back in when they are grown up enough to appreciate the beauty of men and women just as they were born and just as they are now. And that "bee stung lips" look suits so few women (Angelina Jolie is one of them) that most actresses and starlets look ridiculous getting it. Same as I wish they left most plastic surgery with its botox and nose jobs and face tightening where it belongs, in the garbage cans of history as signs of temporary mass insanity besetting the people of the late 20th century and early 21st Century. Does Mickey Rourke look any better since his beautification, or Kenny Rogers, or Tommy Lee Jones, or Cher, or Joan Rivers or a multitude of others whose skin is now so tight that they can barely speak? I have seen so many fads come and go during my life time but cosmetic surgery (except for medical reasons) is the worst as far as I am concerned in my not so humble opinion. | |
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01-24-13 02:06pm - 4350 days | #6 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
No longer, it is "blondes" now! Except for Newfies who still like to make "Mainlander" jokes! | |
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01-24-13 02:04pm - 4350 days | #51 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
They forgot something when they made Ken. Thank heavens for that because many of us might be rushing off trying to find a good surgeon! | |
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01-24-13 11:11am - 4350 days | #4 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
^ Hilarious, Reveen. Thanks for the laugh. In Canada the "Kerryman" would have been replaced with "Blonde" to spare sensitive feelings. | |
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01-24-13 10:59am - 4350 days | #49 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I think Barbie is behind the fake breast craze. They all want to look like Barbie .. which is fine when they are fully clothed but take off those clothes and it's a horror to most. I tie my theory to the fact that enhanced breasts are mostly popular among North Americans where the dolls were the most prevalent and popular. Because of this most red-blooded American males don't want to see small to medium breasts any more because they remember their youth and Barbie's "super size me" plastic breasts! | |
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01-20-13 10:40am - 4354 days | #13 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Welcome to the club, bibo. And it is that sort of spam that is the most dangerous because the links look legitimate. But if they are, why use ME as the sender. So I simply delete without clicking on any of the links. Best be safe. | |
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01-18-13 06:15pm - 4356 days | #7 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Ah, well, that site was just one of the suspects. I think there are a lot of them who make a bit of money on the side by selling your personal information. | |
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01-18-13 03:06pm - 4356 days | #5 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I do exactly the same thing, lk2fireone, I get roughly 50 spam emails daily. GMail is kind enough to put them into a separate folder, which helps. I simply click on Spam, take a quick look at the senders and then batch delete the lot. Have you ever figured out how someone whose subject line reads something like "xyp:fsx%&" would ever expect to get an answer from anyone? And I am glad I don't belong to any social network because I am forever getting notified of someone wanting to be my friend or that there are 10 messages I have ignored. Must be hard on people who really are members! | |
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01-18-13 02:22pm - 4356 days | #7 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, Thomas. I have quite a bit of Suburban Amateurs material in my stash and wouldn't doubt that I even wrote a review at one time. Can't be sure because it has been a while but thanks for bringing it up because it was a good site that I had forgotten about. | |
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01-18-13 02:19pm - 4356 days | #6 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, boredguy. Looks like quite a few are waiting for someone to take that first step! I just took their tour and wouldn't be tempted to try the site because of the over abundance of fake breasts in their videos preview. The quality appears to be there and the stars certainly look gorgeous, though. If it wasn't for one of my pet peeves I'd take you up on your suggestion! | |
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01-18-13 01:53pm - 4356 days | #3 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Sherlock Holmes would say: "Aha, me thinks we are on to something!" | |
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01-18-13 01:50pm - 4356 days | #3 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks a lot, bibo. This is exactly what I want, our users suggesting favorite sites that are not mentioned on a daily basis. I promise that I will give each and every suggestion a very good look. It can be mild, it can be extreme, I don't care as long as I get away, for once, from the usual twenty or so sites I keep subscribing to on a regular basis. I have been too timid about trying something new for too long! Edited on Jan 18, 2013, 02:10pm | |
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01-18-13 01:16pm - 4356 days | Original Post - #1 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
... meant to be spent on porn, I have a terrible time getting rid of it. Just can't find a site that would make me sit up and take notice anymore. Blame ennui, over-saturation, desensitization, old age, plus the fact that many of my old favorites have changed and not for the better .. fact is they all start to look the same to me. Which should not come as a great surprise because there are only so many ways you can present sex without people getting tired of it eventually. I am talking about mature people, of course, youngsters don't get tired of watching sex, ever. Now, for once, this post is NOT about mature women doing a slow strip but a plea: I need a shock to my system so I am asking this forum, did any site affect you lately to the extent where you said: Wow, this IS different and were instantly aroused? Any site, any niche, from softcore to extreme. I would really like to give it a go. Edited on Jan 18, 2013, 01:40pm | |
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01-18-13 01:00pm - 4356 days | #19 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Just curious, hodayathink, how do tube sites make money? As I stated in another place my experience with them is limited to a one time visit. Do they show ads? Do they offer upgrades that would cost you, the way Porn.com did before we de-listed them here? I honestly want to know because when I think of Manwin I think of Brazzers and Reality Kings etc. sites that certainly don't appear to be losing propositions. So, if they get their money through ads is it really that profitable for any site to carry them? Thanks. | |
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01-18-13 12:48pm - 4356 days | Original Post - #1 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
This is really weird. I received two emails today under my messmer throw-away gmail address which listed me, under my real name, as the sender of the mail. In the body of the email were links to 21Sextreme, a site I had subscribed to in the past. This might be an attempt by 21Sextreme to get me to re-subscribe but why list the real me as the author? What is really disturbing is that I get huge amounts of spam daily under my messmer gmail address (only used for porn,) with many of them addressing me by my real first name and even by my real whole name. There must be a lot of porn sites that are after a bit of extra income because only they and places like Epoch or CCBill would ever know about the real deal behind my "handle!" I guess all their protestations of guarding your privacy are just so much hot air. | |
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01-17-13 06:58pm - 4357 days | #5 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Aamazing, awesome ... thanks, jb! | |
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01-16-13 01:41pm - 4358 days | #13 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I loved Mad Magazine but just like you, Denner, I don't like the changes it has gone through over the years. I don't like the new price either! | |
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01-15-13 06:55pm - 4359 days | #8 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, Pat. You are painting a picture I didn't want to see. After that I take everything back. It's a wonder not more porn stars get sick on a regular basis from ecoli for one. Yukk! | |
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01-15-13 03:44pm - 4359 days | #5 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
It may be a disgusting thought but from what I have read, they go through a lengthy cleansing (enema) process before they do anal, so an ordinary kiss might contain more germs and viruses than ATOGM! | |
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01-15-13 03:34pm - 4359 days | #13 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, squirrel! That last sentence is enough to ensure that I don't EVER go to a tube site again! I haven't come across malware or a virus in years and would like to keep it that way. | |
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01-15-13 01:14pm - 4359 days | #10 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Just a question from a non tube using member. Is the quality of the offered material really good enough to even bother stealing it? I only ran across one tube site (xhamster?) by accident. I was re-directed there while looking at one of those advertising TGP sites and was appalled at the quality of what they offered and was wondering why people would want crap simply because it is free? Are there actually tube sites that offer the stolen material in the same quality as that of the original site where it was illegally obtained? I guess you can tell by the tone of my post that I am not a great lover of porn users ripping off pay sites so this is not an attempt to get my hands on free material but simple curiosity on my part. What the heck is their attraction if their quality is generally as bad as what I saw on xHamster that one time???. Advertisements are a different matter, I am talking TGPs where I have come across many a site that I had never heard of before. The ATK sites as well as AO30 were two of the sites that got quite a bit of my money over the years .. thanks to the TGPs. Of course, now that I am a member here I no longer use them, especially since many do nothing now but redirect you to another site. | |
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01-14-13 10:24am - 4360 days | #23 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, Reveen. Your answer is thought-provoking as well, and I actually agree with much you have to say. I guess my question was provoked by the assembly line updates in a site I quit only recently. They had a handful of models they showed over and over, one of them actually has 59 sets to offer so far, probably up to 65 since I last looked. Now if that model wore normal, everyday clothes in one set, a nightie in another, erotic lingerie in a third, a dress in a fourth etc. then I could see the reason for collecting, but with most models (on that particular site) it was mostly a top, no bra, a jean skirt or jeans, occasionally worn with panties, but most of the time going commando, from set to boring set. I admit, as usual, to hyperbole in order to make a point .. but I am not exaggerating by much. I guess what I need is a high class picture site with a bunch of great models, but more importantly, with a bunch of inventive photographers who will make the effort to present the model a bit differently in each set. And who will stop assuming that the viewer can't wait to get to the choice bits and therefore ignore the erotic tease factor altogether in favour of a series of nude shots. | |
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01-13-13 06:00pm - 4361 days | #21 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I'm with you on that one, trouble is the site we've been talking about in another place have (mostly) NOT been mixing the outfits up, except for one photographer. | |
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01-13-13 01:59pm - 4361 days | #19 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
^ This is one thing I don't understand about you, Cap'n, or Reveen. I grant you that some models do look prettier than others but would you really want twenty sets of one, especially since the clothes they wear from set to set, as well as the postures, are often almost identical these days? The body remains the same so you are just staring at something you're already familiar with from the first set on. If, on the other hand, you collect 20 different models, at least the body shapes are different from set to set, even if they too should wear similar clothes. Not trying to be confrontational, my friends. Just a different way of looking at things. | |
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01-12-13 05:57pm - 4362 days | #15 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Agreed again, I have never subscribed to DDF because in all the samples I looked at the women wore way too much makeup! A bit too much glamor for my taste. | |
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01-12-13 12:56pm - 4362 days | #51 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Well, I certainly wouldn't turn my back on those two movies, so thanks. After all, I do love porn as well, and if the movies have a good story, great!! As a matter of fact, I recently actually watched a movie on one of our late night channels by Valentine Productions from beginning to end because, for once, the story took first place and was not just a short introduction to an endlessly drawn out sex scene. | |
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01-12-13 12:27pm - 4362 days | #5 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I am having a tough time with this one because I usually go for the housewifey, ordinary type who hasn't made a name for herself like the glamour models. I can name two models, though, because of two outstanding features of theirs that I like very much, and that is puffy nipples, One is Faye Reagan, the other Blue Angel. | |
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01-12-13 12:19pm - 4362 days | #10 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Nice post, BubbaGump! I am with you all the way on this one! I especially like: "IMO, there is too much focus on volume and not enough focus on quality." I just dropped a subscription with two months to go because while the volume was there (ten picture sets a day) there was a monotonous sameness to them all. But I am really getting old, so maybe it is just me. | |
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01-12-13 12:13pm - 4362 days | #49 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks for the two names above, hodayathink. I must look them up. And you are absolutely right in your observations when it comes to selling a movie like the one I crave to see. That's why I call it the impossible dream: to see a non-sex-centered, story driven movie, except that the sex is left in ... IF the context calls for it. | |
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01-12-13 10:25am - 4362 days | #47 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
^ Thanks, Pat. I knew you would come through with some excellent information! Today's dream: I click on Netflix and find "Showgirls!!" Yeah, right. That's my one beef with that service, not enough truly adult material. Not porn but adult! And if the critics disliked "Showgirls" then it would most likely be right up my alley. The critics and I don't agree on too much. I am too much of a peasant with horrible taste. | |
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01-10-13 12:41pm - 4364 days | #41 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I must confess that I have never been to an adult theater. Maybe the city I lived in in Canada was too small, or maybe they were not allowed in Canada .. I really don't know. Pat might be able to clue me in on that with his huge knowledge base. In this case I was thinking of real, main stream theaters presenting life as it is in the movies they show. No "Deep Throat" or "Debbie Does Dallas" .. simply ordinary, every day movies with a good story, with censorship a thing of the past when it comes to the sex scenes. But that will never happen here .. it's just a pipe dream of mine. | |
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01-09-13 10:38am - 4365 days | #33 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I was thinking last night how wonderful it would be if the mainstream producers and distributors were able to give us high production value, regular movies with overt sex left in, if the story calls for it. No, I am not talking NC-17, because even in those movies great care is taken to hint at sex rather than show it. Be it thrillers, sci-fi, dramas, comedies. Just have a good story with the sexual element left in, be it five minutes or a bit more or maybe even less, depending, It would be so much more erotic than a flimsy story that invariably leads to 22 minutes of sex within five minutes, as is the case with most "adult" movies. One could always use body doubles if the stars refused to do a scene like that. A truly ADULT high quality movie shown at the Cineplex ... what a dream! Darn those censors. It could have been that way if it hadn't been for them. As a matter of fact Hollywood started that way and then got suppressed by the prudes. | |
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