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09-14-13  08:16pm - 4117 days #10
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Originally Posted by messmer:


With that I mean picture sites that were mostly solo originally but have gradually given in to demands to add more hardcore material like b/g or g/g.

Here is my problem: I looked at all the solo girls as "models," maybe they were exhibitionists at heart, maybe they did it as a one time thing to help them get through college. Maybe they were mature women who decided "Man, I am bored with being a vanilla person .. I want to do something different, shocking, for a change" ... well, you know what I mean.


My first thought after reading this was fucking ALSScan. I understand they have expanded over the years, been taken over by the MetArt octopus, and are generally a better site than they were ten or fifteen years ago, but I'm a girls-only man at heart.

Yes, I still watch plenty of hardcore, but when I develop a liking for a certain format over the years then I don't want it to be tainted by an invasion of boners and literal man taint. And "but it's only a little hardcore" is not a defense for me. I'm not even tolerant of BTS guys so on camera XY chromosomes are even less desirable.

That being said there's something about a performer, rather than a site, that does a little something different outside her usual repertoire of debauchery. Watch a girl do nothing but solo or girl-girl scenes for long enough and then one day find that she's performed a crazy boy-girl anal scene and you'll feel like you've uncovered cold fusion. I guess there's something to be said for that moment when you realize your favorite actress, who always held a special, somewhat innocent place in your heart, actually knows her way around a big hard cock.

However, if she turns that hardcore stuff into her usual routine I'll be bored to tears pretty quickly. The best is when it's something you know they'll do, just not very often. It's like a precious commodity and if she does it in every scene you run out of desire for it.

A lot of sites could learn something from this; keep the content a little unique and don't think hardcore will simply equal bigger bucks because it gets fucking boring when everyone is doing it. Hell, AbbyWinters is still around (if relocated) and has continued to do business without suffering a tidal wave of testosterone. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 14, 2013, 08:20pm

09-14-13  07:45pm - 4117 days #9
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Who knows the reason why a girl/woman ends up doing a photo set or two?

Originally Posted by pat362:


I can't speak for every one of them but when it comes to semi-nude to all nude models then the simple is answer that it's a paycheck. That's it, thats' all.


It's certainly the number one reason I can think of why anyone gets into the business. So until the haters can figure out how to give all these "victimized" young women free jobs that pay as much for the same amount of work with as little education then they don't have much to offer to the discussion.

Even the supposed sex addicts still have bills to pay and don't necessarily like doing these things on camera or all the prep work involved. And if they actually enjoy doing nude/solo work that doesn't mean the hardcore stuff is equally as satisfying (despite the usually higher paycheck). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-13-13  06:43pm - 4118 days #15
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


You have to learn to look away if work in or with personal property.


I've become exhausted with my anger over how so many people can be so deeply offended by others harmless private activities that they feel compelled to do something but yet when they see real, unethical, even criminal, behavior they don't report it to the authorities. Our society can get its priorities so screwed up that we never tire of howling about people's healthy interests in consensual sexual activity but yet can't be bothered to report, say, the rape of a child even after witnessing it.

Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Reminded me when I did a job years ago the womens bed room was made up in a sex dungeon.


Oh, we can all dream can't we? At least you were probably helping to make someone (or a lot of people?) a little bit happier in life. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-13-13  03:50am - 4119 days #28
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I tend to go on the premise of I wake up with boner or can look at Madison Ivy and raise a flag pole ? well live is still rewarding me with wood . LOL


Life may be worth living but the mornings can still suck--that damn morning wood is going to take out my coffee maker one day!

Of course when you actually may need or want such hard-as-granite man muscle you suddenly don't have quite the same automatic performance. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-12-13  11:17pm - 4119 days #61
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


But newer is often not better. They teach that in business school ( where I went) and they stress don;t screw your customer base ever.


Exactly how hard do they stress it though? Seriously, outside of tiny companies with employees in the single digits, what real world company doesn't eventually become arrogant, smug, or just plain greedy and gives their customers (or potential customers) the ol' middle finger of we-know-best policy. And don't get me started on how employees/subjects are treated, particularly here in the U.S.

In all defense of PU, I don't see the change as that traumatic. No, I have not reviewed a site here in ages, even after subscribing to sites and feeling like I wasn't screwed over or it was really worth my time and money. But we haven't exactly paid anything directly to PU, and we could get discounts to sites and for a long while were even able to win money simply for contributing here.

A pretty good deal if you ask me, and the decorum of the forum has been the icing on the cake and a rare place on the Internet. I.E., it's not a flood of death threats, spam, homophobia, and racism that nearly ever other forum or board has sunk to over the years. Just spend a few minutes reading comments on Yahoo! or YouTube to get a sense of how vile people are under the guise of a made-up username.

I don't feel like we're giving this all up because PU is moving and renaming to a newer site. It doesn't exactly sound like the reviews will be instantly lost or stricken from the record but they will eventually become less and less relevant over time. I also don't see why we can't continue on into a new forum as their will be plenty to discuss/bitch about (my own list of things that piss me off that I can give my about is always growing ).

Frankly all the talk of people packing up and leaving sounds premature as we haven't even tried out the new site. Only time will tell (and, at least for me, my own inexhaustible mountain of rage ). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-12-13  10:52pm - 4119 days #13
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I won't bring it back to the tech who worked on it for two reasons. One I don't think he is very competent and two he did not react well to seeing the porn I had on it.


If he did not react well to seeing your porn I would say he's not very competent. Sorry, but if I paid someone to fix my computer it's to fix my computer not act as some sort of moral compass. He's got to have seen porn before you and if he really has a problem with it would have found another line of work.

Anyway, I hope it's working better with reinstalled codecs though I don't know why that would have mattered for full screen play. That sounds like a memory or CPU issue as I would think codec problems would have prevented you from playing the videos at any size. I have a Mac so I probably can't help you too much. (Solutions on Macs usually involve just installing new video programs until you find one that works, particularly for WMVs, though VLC handles most them reasonably well.)

Good luck, and keep us up to date if anything helps/changes. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-10-13  11:24pm - 4121 days #5
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


You are totally right, now I recognize Joanne too, although I had overlooked that before. I'm not sure if it's niche specific, but the early pics from ALSScan and especially from Wetscape were used en masse by dozens of other peeing sites in the early days of the genre. I'm not sure if they were licensed non-exclusively or used indiscriminately.


If the content is from ALSScan I doubt it was legally licensed at all. I've never heard of them allowing such a thing, or at least not from that time (they're now owned by a bigger parent company) and I even remember reading one of the webmaster's blogs a few years back urging members to email them if they ever saw their content being offered for free. Stuff like on this site you joined isn't really useful since it's just the model cut out and added to a shitty header collage image, but a few full size images could probably bring in some paying customers--or possibly scare them away . "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-09-13  10:10pm - 4122 days #29
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


This is old school compared to what others use, the main feature I like is the D60 has a view finder only and not a screen. I think to many are using the new digital screens and getting unrealistic samples. This camera is about 10 years old has a rubber casing and is sturdy I would take it anywhere.


With a modicum of photographic talent or at least experience, plus a bare minimum of equipment and accessories (lenses, filters, lights, enough spare batteries and memory cards) you could shoot something reasonably decent with this.

But sometimes the technology and a decent budget, or at least what looks like a decent budget, backfires and just makes for some truly boring photos. Perfect makeup, lighting, sets, and obvious Photoshop (very irritating!) can make for some pointless photography in my mind. I guess I've ultimately become a video man because the photos have become over-posed snoozefests devoid of what I can even imagine to be faked passion and pleasure.

Unless it's very carefully edited--and that's rare, many scenes are simply one long clip--a video can at least convey some physical sense of the performer on the other side of the screen. Yeah, I understand that her window-shattering howls are probably not that genuine , but at least you can see a performer work up an actual sweat and maybe have an amorously mischievous smile at the end of a scene. Photos too often simply show Plasticine-molded women with frozen expressions of what I presume were supposed to be pleasure but ended up looking like she was experiencing surgery without anesthesia.

No thanks. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-09-13  09:47pm - 4122 days #52
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I doubt that would be allowed if reviews will be tied to earning points like they have been with this site. Plus, past a certain point old reviews start to become irrelevant. Maybe they could offer a link on each site's review page to the old review page here at PU, at least for as long as PU is around. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-09-13  09:43pm - 4122 days #2
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Looks 100% sketchy because I recognize a couple of images from the first page of their "Free Tour" section. They look like they were taken directly from ALSScan, albeit from a couple of models they shot over a decade ago, Paula and Joanne (you can look up the two models on ALSScan and it should be pretty obvious).

The few pages I looked at from this site look like they could have been from the late '90s or early 2000s anyway--tiny header image with shitty quality. If a site doesn't have some obvious trademark/brand name it's already sketchy in my book. The least they should do is offer some full size sample images with fairly blatant watermarks on them. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-05-13  08:59pm - 4126 days #4
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


And what was Batman's real relationship to Robin, anyway? I thought Robin was cute. Did Batman also think Robin was cute, or was there a deeper meaning to their relationship, that was hidden from public view back in the 1960s, that might now be exposed?

Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I think most people knew there was more to this then was let on.


What, a couple of athletic guys can't dress up in costumes with molded six-packs, start their evenings in a literal man cave, and then go out for a wild night on the town?

Maybe all those "girlfriends" Bruce Wayne had were just beards to keep people from guessing what he really did with his free time and gigantic fortune. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-05-13  08:42pm - 4126 days #3
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Originally Posted by graymane:


My drop-dead gorgeous Primary Care Physician won't let it go. She keeps insisting (at 80, mind-you) I need antidepressants to help bring me out of the Psychological morass my "daily-beat-the-hell-outta-me" abusive father used to hand-down (pun-if-you-will) on me as a lad.
Compounded by constant belittlement and proclamation of my being a burden he had to live with and attention shared with my mom.


Sorry to hear this, gray. Reminds me of why I'm so skeptical of those who worship at the altar of The Family. Some people have really shitty families or family members, and they didn't exactly have a choice in the matter. But I guess if you weren't born with the veritable silver spoon up your ass and hired help to manage most of the parenting duties it's your fault, right?

Originally Posted by graymane:


BUT ..... if you lean to my reluctance and fears of these drugs adversely effecting ones's sex life .... then please raise your hand.
It's not like I have babes beating down my door demanding a piece of my unconquerable sexual gifts, for which drugs might sorely bite into performance ...(naughty smile) if, indeed, that dream was reality.


Don't feel so bad, most of us don't have babes beating down our doors--or babes beating anything, hey! --but if a decreased libido is a side effect of antidepressants it sounds like they're not totally effective. I've never taken medication for depression,at least beyond the occasional binges on food, alcohol, and anger, so I haven't experienced their effectiveness firsthand but I would be reluctant if it might kill or decrease my sex drive. Granted my sex drive still feels like it's redlining with premium fuel in the tank but that doesn't mean I'd want to mess with it to try and fix a chemical imbalance in my head.

Talk with your "drop-dead gorgeous" doctor some more and maybe you can try the antidepressants so you can see what they do before committing to them longer term. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-05-13  10:45am - 4126 days #17
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Oh, I've just been lurking, don't mind me.

I haven't had the free time lately to write my old style e-novel comments, and I only check into the forum probably once or twice a week at this point. I'll still keep an eye on the forums, just to make sure everybody is still up to no good.


I had a feeling that you were still lurking around if not actively commenting...

Hope you go over to the new site whenever it starts. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-04-13  04:07am - 4128 days #25
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I guess next time they should put a pillow under the cake so that the girls face doesn't impact against a wooden table.


Yeah, you gotta be careful with those hardwoods, they'll do a number on your birthday wishes. Maybe she can take some comfort in that it wasn't one of those fancy granite or marble topped tables!

I first saw this clip on Tosh.0--BTW, if you've never seen the show, this is about the mildest kind of clip they'll play--and for some reason I thought her hair would catch on fire. Then I remembered you only see people intentionally burned on that show, but I guess she was still kind of lucky! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 04, 2013, 04:23am

09-04-13  03:58am - 4128 days #3
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And a thanks to you 'toad.

Wish the other Toad would come back though, haven't heard anything from him in a while. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-03-13  03:52pm - 4128 days #11
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There's an interview with Nina on YouTube. It's about an hour and fifteen minutes long but I think worth watching if you have the time; interesting stories about her past, getting into and staying in the business, and just her uniquely open-minded approach to sexuality.

Towards the end the interviewer said something like "We need more people like you in the world," and I couldn't agree more. Hearing her frank and positive attitude toward sexuality was a breath of fresh air in a culture that feels like it's too often caught between dispassionate perversion and authoritarian prudery. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-02-13  07:22pm - 4129 days #20
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^In this case I think the birthday girl would probably have to be naked and in a vulnerable position for the anal part to take place.


I guess if you want to avoid the gift of "surprise anal" you be very careful what cup you're drinking out of at the party. Who knows what your "friends" slipped in there.


Edit:

Or just avoid the cake entirely, as I almost forgot what getting your face slammed into one has the potential to do. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 02, 2013, 07:30pm

09-02-13  07:11pm - 4129 days #4
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Originally Posted by jvlinton:


Btw, shouldn't The Best Porn have a POV niche category?


For now you can just do a search on "POV." I got over 60 results, including the site you mentioned.

Originally Posted by jvlinton:


Isn't there a growing interest in the POV / virtual sex genre to justify that?


As a site-wide genre maybe not enough, but plenty of hardcore sites still include POV-style stuff along with their other categories.

And speaking for myself, I prefer girl-girl POV but that's just too damned rare. I figure that either most sites can't think beyond the simple blowjob perspective or just don't let their womenfolk operate the cameras. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-31-13  09:52am - 4131 days #39
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Yep, oddly I took my education and used it to be a Drug and HIV/HEP counselor for 5 years in my past. Got burn out and left. I know sounds made up but was something I did and also oddly enough I found people had sex in ways I never even heard of. It was a interesting job to say the least. But 5 years felt like 25.


I'm sure it did, and I'm also sure you heard of enough stuff that would probably surprise all of us in one way or another. Like how people who have worked in emergency rooms talk, almost in a boasting way, about all the crazy stories and situations they encounter. Granted, I could probably come up with about a million reasons to hate a private hospital worker over a drug counselor but I don't begin to pretend I understand how stressful it can be.

Reading and hearing porn performers talk about their craft they frequently refer to it as athletic sex or something similar. It's intense, physically demanding and damaging work that normal people shouldn't interpret as a guide for everyday sex (especially since they are rarely doing these insane scenes every single day). And it's fun to watch--I would choose it over sports any day--but not necessarily always as much fun as it looks. But considering what they do, the STDs, at least the ones we hear about, seem nowhere near as rampant as you would think. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-30-13  10:26pm - 4132 days #9
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


While there are alleged videos of Hyon Song-wol's porn looking at Google Video I refuse to follow the link for my own safety.


Google Video? I thought that was as dead as, well, the now-deceased ex-girlfriend of Jong-un.

Un's dad, Kim Jong-il, had a South Korean director and his actress ex-wife kidnapped in the late '70s with the intention that they would start North Korean's film industry. In 2003 Salon published a crazy article about the whole thing. I know plenty of us have complained about the sleaziness and manipulative nature of porn guys like Max Hardcore and Rob Black but I'm pretty sure they never had to resort to kidnapping any of their performers (though I think that was the plot of a number of their videos)! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-29-13  07:46pm - 4133 days #6
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Originally Posted by pat362:


If he's killing everyone that he deems a challenge to his authority then there soon won't be many people left alive in North Korea because I think that pretty much describes every person in NK.


They may not be much of a challenge to his authority because so many of them are believed to be either starving or on the verge of it.

Add to this the insane psychological condition that living in an authoritarian police state cut off from the outside world will do to people. Dictatorships work in part because enough people are convinced that there is no other possible way to exist--especially when they have lived their entire lives in this way. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-29-13  07:32pm - 4133 days #5
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


Just substitute the word execute with murder. It's nothing that most world leaders don't do all the time, it's just they're a little more subtle about it. As long as you're powerful enough you can do what you want. These are the people who make up the law, so you should never respect the law, just your own moral law.


I don't know about never respecting the law, but your own morals could certainly be a marked improvement over those of the enlightened rulers who first wrote them. We'd probably be better off without all the homophobia, sexism, racism, and other such prejudices that are so ingrained in so many of the more "moral" laws on the books.

In the U.S., for example, the original Constitution included the vile Thee-Fifths Compromise in its text because it was considered necessary for the passage of the new constitution. Makes me a little weary of people who so proudly proclaim themselves to be originalists. Exactly which original parts do they like so much?

Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


It's a shame our western leaders don't get their knickers in a twist as much about this as they do about Assad and Syria, but then North Korea is a little more powerful. Just announce Kim Jong-un is a murderer and sentence him to death in his absence, then encourage all the dissidents in Korea to go get him, like they did with Gaddafi. But no they'll do lots of business with him, shake hands with him, while all the time thinking what a piece of garbage, but our pieces of garbage are just as bad. Only good one's a dead one.


Unlike Syria the U.S. has had troops on North Korea's border since the early 1950s, so they probably feel they have a more legitimate excuse to spend so much on defense. As a result South Korea has spent a lot on their military and gladly accepts the continued presence of the U.S. military in their country. There's an insane logic to it all, a sort of catch-22 for why we "must" ultimately have the upper hand in that region of the world as we do in so many others.

Syria really isn't any better though, and I honestly don't understand why the use of chemical weapons on civilians is suddenly a "red line" that shall not be crossed in the name of deploying America's military force. The cynic in me says it's because our nearly twelve year-long game in Afghanistan is getting old and even the war in Iraq was a bust for the most nihilistic war lovers, so now it's time to start fucking with someone new. A bully isn't much of bully if he just stands around boasting of old scores; eventually he's going to have start cracking heads again to remind people who's boss.

And, like lifelong super hawk John McCain, if we want to start bombing that country for "humanitarian" reasons--an argument which I can barely follow with a straight face--what exactly are our long term goals for the country? It's not a video game where you can just blow shit up and then that's it, you've won. Do we want another dictator, though one who's friendlier to U.S. interests (probably)? A theocracy who will likely be just as inhumane (not really)? A democratic republic, made up of leaders who aren't wearing military or religious uniforms (hell no!)?

Just my angry rant for now. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-25-13  08:40pm - 4137 days #12
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Paypal is just trying to look conservative in a liberal industry.


I'm not so sure about that. On their website the help center section has restrictions on firearms, prescription drugs, sexually-related goods and services, as well as "goods and services that may promote hate, violence, or intolerance," whatever that could be stretched to entail.

Sounds more controversy-averse than conservative, and pretty far away from libertarian which many of their original founders seem to be (hates taxes on their gigantic fortunes and want laws loosened on numerous social issues). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-25-13  07:19pm - 4137 days #33
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


The other issues in this is HIV and HEP test are not always definitive. Often times a person can test today fro Hep-C and it wont show up for a few weeks to a month.
HIV is one of those viruses that can not show its ugly head either. The test are only 90% affective and people forget that. Condoms are also only 90% affective in preventing transfer of and infection.


To add to this and to partially refute what I posted above, the test for HIV and AIDS can apparently generate false negatives--i.e., it does not detect that you have it when you actually do--for up to three months after exposure. This is what a Gawker article summed up from the CDC (instead of some performer's latest brain fart-via-Twitter). Yikes!

What's additionally sad is this Gawker article is about Sydney Leather, who you may have heard of from the most recent Anthony Weiner scandal--hint, she's not his wife. She may have been exposed to HIV in her debut scene from a co-performer who had also recently worked with Cameron Bay. Aurora Snow had written an article for her Daily Beast column urging Sydney not to take her fifteen minutes to the porn industry, and she didn't even mention the risks to her health.

And condoms definitely have their limitations in porn, considering how they are only used for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, rarely oral (whether giving or receiving) or when using toys (which are freely swapped between multiple partners within a scene). Though Kink.com, where Cameron suffered a less deadly if still ugly injury, does use condoms all the time...on their toys. Without getting too technical, condoms literally don't cover what porn has come up with in terms of girl-girl content, or even all the fluids that are let loose in the other genres of porn. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by pat362:


Girls shoot porn one day and then spend a few days escorting and then they start the process all over. All the while having a test that is not valid anymore since the test was never meant to be used except by people that only did porn.


Part of the problem seems to be that no one in the industry just has sex exclusively on camera, they have it in their personal lives as well (or extended professional life if you're counting the extracurricular escorting) and this makes the tests a lot more useless.

In theory, I could only see a test being valid if the performer has sex with someone who is just as freshly tested--no partners since their last tests! In other words, a basically impossible standard that would only work if every performer was tested before every single scene. Add in all the false positives, or more scarily the false negatives, and you have an insanely inefficient way to make porn. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Simarimas:


But I am fiscally conservative, and probably moderate on social issues.


Probably? You are a webmaster at a porn site, right? "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-25-13  01:50am - 4138 days #36
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


See Simarimas, many California based webmasters not only think they should be able to trick, manipulate and con the customer, you as the customer should embrace their arrogance and self entitlement. Remember this is a state that tells all school children we are having a contest and everyone wins attitude. The Liberal attitude in the porn capital gets everyone asking wheres mine and you owe me crap. I Obviously moved mainly because of how screwed up businesses were there. ( I WONT EVER BE BACK )
I'll by pass that state at all costs. Not to knock Liberals or California, but progressive never equals a good deal for the consumer never has never will. California's porn businesses prove that all too clear with the me, me me attitude. Sorry if the California comments offend anyone but being born and raised there gives me that privileged. And that state fully represents the worst of the porn industry and its practices.


I won't say I'm offended by your comments--I'm pretty sure I've said far worse about some place or someone --but I think you're giving too much credit to porn companies from places outside California, or just the San Fernando valley where the majority of it is produced. And Internet scams in general are from all over; at least some of those Nigerian princes asking for my help (and credit card info for some reason) have to be from outside California.

Unfortunately I would agree with you that "progressive" has been given a bad rap by places like California and NYC, though I think that city's Mayor Bloomberg is just a filthy rich asshole, rather than anything close to a progressive. The problem in places like California is that bills with good intentions get transformed into laws with really bad unintended, and frequently large scale, consequences. Take all the damned propositions (actually a bad idea to begin with), like Prop 65, which is supposed to warn people about things or areas that are known to cause cancer. Sounds like a decent idea...until you realize they've plastered the entire state with warning stickers, including things like food and various parts of your car. D'oh!

And the state, or at least Los Angeles County, will probably eventually launch an attack against porn with some arbitrary new safety regulation when what they really want to do is restrict dirty movies. This may partially work and then consequently screw over LA when they lose money as the porn companies go packing for friendlier jurisdictions. But I don't think even Texas' dumbass of a governor would be bragging about porn the way he already has about trying to attract other industries. Even Austin isn't weird enough to open up to porn! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 25, 2013, 01:53am

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RB, Nina Hartley is still going at it--her Twitter feed is active and sounds reassuringly drama-free. (And IMO, with those glasses she wears she looks likes the world's naughtiest librarian. ) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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And you didn't just use condoms and take them up on their offers? Or are you one of those fastidiously anti-condom dudes who just won't risk the loss of feeling for protected sex?

Just asking because I've heard a lot of guys over the years (but probably more from the Internets) who adamantly refuse to use them, or at least claim they do, because they "don't feel good." Yeah, but you're still having sex--it ain't exactly painful--and parenthood or certain STD tests hurt a lot more! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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18 year old girls know what sex is...they just generally don't acknowledge its more dire consequences, like their own mortality. You know, at that age we were all indestructible.

That Mike South site had an article about financial advice (from a 27-year old performer, mind you) that had a suggestion that was probably more pertinent to the lives of performers than all the recent HIV scaremongering; get health insurance. This is probably an overall bigger risk to young performers because they just don't think about it--or do and come up with the wrong conclusion--but they actually spend the majority of their time not having sex/spreading STDs. And considering they're in a job that is dependent on them not having an injured body (outside of some fetish I'm not interested in) or simply vanishing for a few months to recover, then they're risking their careers as well as their lives.

Of course the fact that people in the US have to purchase private health insurance out of pocket is the real political elephant in the room, not the manufactured controversy that is the legality of porn. But that's perhaps a different topic for another time... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Playboy need I say more. A man listened to what men wanted and succeeded the largest adult industry identity to that date and for decades on.
Playboy only lost ground when the internet and cable took off. Heff I solute you


I'll see your Playboy and raise you Larry Flynt's Hustler.

Men who were bored and uninterested with Playboy's high class airs and excessive writing got what they wanted with Hustler: unapologetically dirty porn! Today Playboy is only a little more naughty than an FHM or Maxim but with much better manners (I would be embarrassed to be caught reading those latter two magazines).

Hefner definitely established a brand though. Unfortunately that seems to be much of what people recognize today; a logo and an outspoken founder. It's not exactly the era of Playboy After Dark or Playboy clubs anymore. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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I'm not sure how ebay would monitor bootlegs/piracy without buyers sending complaints directly to them or putting it explicitly in the feedback. It sucks buying online, but especially ebay, because you can't physically handle the product and a lot of time sellers just put up a generic photo for multiple items ("Same photo I use on other items. I don't care, fuck you. But please give me 5 stars!" ).

Laziness, ignorance, and general indifference on the part of sellers is ebay's Achilles heel, IMHO. Sometimes I want to give people bad feedback just from reading one of their listings. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


The USA has not accepted Paypal for porn since the EBAY bought Paypal. Still dont......... Yet ??


Yet ebay lets you buy and sell (with PayPal) all kinds of porn and sex toys in its "Adults Only" category--the guidelines seem to allow damn near everything but used underwear and swearing.

In other words PayPal'll take your dirty heathen money, they just don't want you to be too upfront about what you're buying with it. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 22, 2013, 07:04am

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Originally Posted by graymane:


I'm surprised that I didn't see something of a warning by Khan, Because I've seen him lean on these guys who do that in the past.


Khan warned him in another thread--something along the lines of "If you're not going to contribute something of any value then this needs to stop."

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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


It has been a kind of symbiotic relationship. They make money out of our contributions, and we get a place to express ourselves. It isn't without rules or censorship, but even free forums have rules and moderation. We have had the advantage of discounts and a little free money from the raffles.


Honestly I could care less about the discounts and raffles since the members and their contributions to the forum are what keep me returning to this site regularly. I should have paid more attention to the reviews as I inevitably missed something when I eventually decided to join a site and occasionally dug up an older review just to ask a simple question.

But the forum has still been entertaining and amazingly friendly, especially when you consider that anything porn related attracts spammers and haters with the force of a super magnet. Seriously, try and find a 'tube site or any widely read forum or news site without the posts devolving into a bizarre and sad war of who can come up with the most racist or homophobic comment.

And even on the other sites that focus on porn there frequently seem to be serious misogynistic and anger issues afoot, as if the webmasters are all a bunch of Max Hardcore replicants with cocaine addictions. Forums like those too often fulfill the stereotype that porn mainly attracts seriously fucked up viewers who only watch it to see women suffer. PU at least gives me reassurance that many of us just have a healthy and normal view of sexuality and only want to find good porn that's entertaining without having to feed our inner Ted Bundy.

Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


We do not have superior taste to other porn lovers


We don't?! Now you are making me question my time spent here!

Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


The worst of all possible worlds would be losing PU and seeing the new place turn into another corner of the internet filled with morons talking smack.


As I wrote above, I agree wholeheartedly, and I hope you and the rest stay on and transition to the new site. I don't like that the reviews and especially the forum are being lost (or at least not carried over) but it's not like we won't be able to review sites, comment, and complain as usual in the new forum. It'll just be harder to refer back to old reviews and posts that are here--or were here, depending on what happens to PU when the new site is up and running. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by messmer:


I'm not going to be a willing collaborator to exploitation. Man, I am so naive, for someone so old. No wonder I always liked soft core, solo sites better. I am willing to bet that most of those models do it willingly and without the help of drugs or pimps.


It often seems that in softcore and solo porn the only person being exploited is the viewer. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Clearly the person who wrote it has no clue what he's talking about because by todays standard. Any girl who does porn is considered a pornstar. That's not my view and that's why you rarely see me call a performer a pornstar. Those that I refer to as pornstars are the ones that have earned the title as opposed to calling everyone a star. That said. Linda has to be called a pornstar less because of her body of work and more because she was one of the first to do porn and to make a name for herself.


I agree the term is thrown around too much to have a lot of meaning anymore. And I still couldn't name any recent award winners or big names (however you measure a performer's career as big), and if you start dropping names of hot new stars I'll be totally lost.

Lovelace still seems different from women today; far removed from those who may actually enjoy their work and are lucky/smart enough to keep some of the money in the process. I seriously doubt that "Many of them are slave to their boyfriend/suitcase pimp," but they still don't necessarily feel as empowered as that one woman implied so they end up leaving the business rather quickly. Combine this with the young ages of new performers, particularly the female ones, and I'd imagine it's very intimidating to start off in the industry, even without the suitcase pimp and drug habits.

I remember my late teens and early twenties--nothing remarkable or too regrettable--but as mature and headstrong as I'd like to think I was the truth was far less impressive. Fresh out of high school I was hardly as empowered or as confident as I really needed to be, and much less than I'd wished to be. I can only imagine what it feels like for a young woman to try and make it in porn at the same time in her life, particularly within a society that's already fairly patriarchal and judgmental. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 18, 2013, 04:58pm (turboshaft: Spelling)

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(I was going to originally just post this in Wittyguy's massive Upcoming Movie Thread, but since that's grown to some twenty-four pages and this particular movie is somewhat special to a site like PU I thought it deserved it's own thread.)

The new Lovelace movie about Deep Throat's Linda Lovelace is out and I was wondering if any PU'ers have seen it and what their reactions are to it. I'm much too young to have seen Deep Throat in theaters, or to even believe that the 1970s really were a Golden Age of Porn, but I thought there were a few members here who had seen it in its original theatrical form in the early '70s or at least remember hearing about it then.

Deep Throat probably approached the mainstream about as close as a legitimately hardcore movie could, and I doubt as many people would even think of going to a theater today to watch what so casually passes for hardcore--fisting, watersports, crazy anal, and other such hijinks. Sure the Jackass movies attracted audiences, but those are understood to be a joke for the most part, and it's probably not as entertaining for so many people to watch some twenty year old girl fart out her partner's load into a cup for what is implied to be some sort of sexual pleasure.

But the interesting thing is just how different today's industry is from the Deep Throat era. I read a recent Slate article about how Linda Lovelace wasn't a porn star by today's standards. Keep in mind that the article is written by a gay male performer who claims he wanted to be in porn since middle school, and then when he was of age he waited a decade. But outside of his skewed male perspective he still has a point.

The tragedy of Lovelace's life in and after porn, and what makes the recent film sound so truly depressing, is that she really wasn't a willing partner in much of it. It's a far cry from the hundreds of girls who come in looking for fun and quick cash, find little of either, and leave within a few months--all on their own. And an even farther cry from the women who stay and make a career out of it, even if "porn star" means nothing outside the industry. For the look-at-Lovelace anti-pornistas, women like Jenna Jameson, Sasha Grey, Aurora Snow, and Nina Hartley don't fit their agenda. Even someone like Belladonna, who has had some traumatic experiences because of the industry, has not gone off and joined a convent or some special interest group.

An interesting quote to take away from that article and to think about with the renewed interest in Lovelace, from performer Sovereign Syre: "It’s one of the few jobs where women are empowered to be financially and emotionally independent and that terrifies people." "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Looks cools...if very different. I like black, but it's about as stark of a visual difference from what we have now; I'm sure some other PU'ers (but not for long!) can elaborate better on what they don't like about the look from these two JPGs. I do like the green and red for pros and cons, as it's pretty obvious what's what without having to put "+" or "-" in those sections. Things look pretty clean and readable overall.

My initial questions:

1.) We will have to re-register, but does that mean we lose everything from PU? Or is it all just brought over to the new Pornforums/Pornverdict? I could probably do with a clean moral slate considering some of the stuff I've posted here over the years...but I doubt others would like to lose all their posts and reviews.

2.) Is this merging with other sites outside Pornusers and TheBestPorn? What are these 7 networked sites exactly? (That you can tell me about without having to kill me afterwards. )


Hope it's going well for you guys though, especially since you have all the work to do. I don't think everyone online appreciates how mind-numbingly insane it can be to create new sites like these, where everything works and still meets the needs of such finicky users. Good luck! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by skunk:


porn is about suck, fuck, fisting,ws and so on, it not about loving relationships bit now.


Who's to say you can't have all those in a loving relationship?

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Originally Posted by messmer:


I am always here, every day. But the subject has to be of interest to me before I put my two cents worth of opinion in. I could treat you to a daily post on how there should be more sites with mature women shedding their clothes slowly, revealing erotic lingerie in the process of getting nude .. but then the crowd would start throwing rotten tomatoes at me.


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08-13-13  05:15pm - 4149 days #16
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I agree I think many are closet, dark basement watchers, who hide from their wives and lead double lives.


Probably so, but it's the quiet ones you gotta watch out for.

But porn's still an easy vice to keep secret if you're careful. I doubt Anthony Weiner and Bob Filner would be in as much trouble, if any at all, if they had kept their hands and cell phone pics to themselves and just browsed some sites instead. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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The majority of the women who appear on one or both sites are relative unknowns in the porn industry. I believe the guy who shoots those videos is located somewhere in the Midwest so that explains why the girls are unknowns.


Wouldn't that technically be illegal then since shooting porn outside a few places (California, Florida, NYC) is not cool with the law? I've always been kind of curious about these sites that shoot in these places since it could get them in trouble. ALS Scan and FTV Girls are both in these legal gray areas too, though with significantly less hardcore content.

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I'm not a huge fan of the language he uses on his site to describe the performers but then again I'm also not a fan of the kind of porn he shoots.


Sounds like Max Hardcore, and the same general thread question applies to him as well: "So where do these models come from? What's in it for them?" Knowing that his stuff is out there, and he makes it clear what the performers are in for (which for the majority looked like it was regretting working with him in the first place), how did he keep attracting young women? A few were genuinely into it, went on to do more humane porn, but I swear I hear a feminist's head explode every time I see anything with him in it.

As to the original mentioned sites (where I have never been a member) and porn in general, I think it can be explained by money, lack of opportunity, childhood issues, or some combination of all of these. With every porn-exploits/abuses/destroys-women Dworkinesque critic there seems to a real lack of empathy for why women get into the business and stay. Numerous veteran performers--who infuriate the critics by deciding to continue in porn of their own free will--have all said some version of "It's not like I chose porn over Harvard."

If someone really hates porn, and I doubt many genuinely do, they should look at addressing the cause and not the symptom. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 13, 2013, 05:10pm (turboshaft: Spelling)

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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


2. Here today, gone tomorrow. Unless we're talking about a major studio, you never know how long some sites will be around or before they remove older material.

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4. Privacy. While we all know the NSA is constantly evaluating the quality of the porn we currently download, that's not my main concern. I would expect that the longer you stay on a site the more likely they are to see you as a cash cow, someone whose information would be worth something to other sites or individuals. Whatever privacy is in place today may not be there tomorrow.


I second most of your post, but these two in particular.

One, I'm not totally sure what'll happen in the future when some Rand Paul-type junta or one of his many equally authoritarian rivals takes over the U.S. and declares eminent domain over all American porn companies, but it'll make streaming pretty useless. Okay, but more seriously though, you can't really predict the future economy of any particularly site or company. Whether it goes harder, softer, or just more "modern" and takes its older material offline because they know better.

For example, Kink.com's aptly-titled Pissing.com stopped updating sometime around 2011, but it's still available for subscription and I presume full download, but who's to say they don't suddenly one day decide "Hey, there's no electricity or water on this old site of ours, we need to take that shit down! In fact, take those other sites down too, because they're really eating up our utility bills." Sucks for the procrastinators out there. I figure at least once I download something it's somewhat safe, outside of EMP devices or outright robbery. I can always delete something in the future if I don't actually like it, but at least I had a chance to decide.

And two, while the NSA does have a Bond villian-scale facility out in Utah, I doubt they're using it to backup porn sites in case they ever go belly up. I said recently in the forum that the world is generally moving in a socially liberalizing direction, but there are still a veritable fuck-ton of anachronistic puritans with a death grip on much of the world's arts and culture. And it's almost too easy to laugh off the David Camerons of the world until one realizes that "for the children" is code meaning we are increasingly being treated like five-year olds by our respective governments. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Aug 08, 2013, 09:48pm

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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I agree with you, going to throw out Madison Ivy's name
again like I do often in this forum. She has amazing tits and they were upgraded a few years ago. She is very pretty and needs no make up. They try and make her look more sultry by adding makeup and she is one of those people that neads no make up.


I looked her up and I would agree with you. Her Twitter pics definitely show her to be just as sexy, if not sexier, when she's not out in public. But I guess she isn't slutty/"sultry" enough with less makeup. And she's one of those women who frankly start to go down that lookin'-like-a-tranny path when they are so heavily made up--and I don't like that ("beauty" pageant contestants usually have this problem too).

Madison obviously has fake breasts--not to mention a permanently arched back apparently--but they aren't so bad considering what the makeup does to her, and at least that's not as permanent. I know breast implant hatred is almost a PU religion but I think it's overblown compared to what all the Kabuki makeup does to an otherwise naturally attractive face. Of course, a Penelope Black Diamond-style breast enhancement is taking things too far, but at least those heroic implants don't make me ever think she might really be a man.

Granted, as a man I might sound incredibly shallow and naïve saying that women could do with less makeup (and that it probably wouldn't hurt if I tried wearing some to just make me look a little less like a pallid bridge troll), but I am turned off by the notion that the sexually idealized look of a women is that of a lingerie-clad circus performer. (Though a Kink.com-take on whatever the hell Cirque du Soleil is would probably attract quite an audience.) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by pat362:


I am rather negative but that is less by choice than by the overall picture that I currently see of the porn industry.
I don't know how many sites or studios you keep track off but I track plenty of them and most are in trouble. Worst is that the ones that aren't in trouble are usually dead. That's why I say that porn is dying.


Define "dying" because I'm not seeing it. The porn industry is really going through the changes that pretty much every industry goes through with the inevitable march of time. And no offense, but I think you might be suffering from some rose-colored longing for the past as Wittyguy was implying.

Everything seems to have its past defenders: car "lovers" who can't help but fawn over cars from 50+ years ago because everything since then is "the same" and lacks passion. Yeah, but most cars from that long ago ran on leaded fuel, were sold without seatbelts (because that would imply the cars were unsafe!), and suffered from reliability issues that today would be recall-worthy. But fuck it, they were better!

Music fans of any genre are even worse--and I should know, I am one--we reach a certain age, cross our arms, and declare that "You stupid kids are spoiled today, you don't buy albums anymore, just download the latest single for your iWhatever. Thanks to you little shits the industry is dead and all the good artists go unheard. Fuck you, the music was all sooo much better in ____.

Originally Posted by pat362:


Not dead nor will it ever really be dead.


Exactly.

The world simply isn't moving in this direction. It's inevitably, if slowly, liberalizing more every day. And despite the leaders of even modern, largely free countries like the UK suggesting boneheadedly ineffective measures to restrict "poisonous websites" from our precious children, people generally do not want any of it. The more vocal prudes among us may talk the talk but behind closed doors they fire up the computer instead of walking the walk.

Yes, lots of anti-porn egotists have made a cool buck off their authoritarian take on morality in recent years but how much money has been made in porn and other such "vices" in that same time? Even Prohibition seemed like a good enough idea that a bunch of humorless teetotalers were able to convince the US congress (many of who were probably drunk) to amend the constitution to remind the rest of just how wrong we apparently all were. Seemed to work out great.

Originally Posted by pat362:


After all there is porn on the net that was made 40 years ago and I'm sure that 40 years from now there will be porn that was made today. That doesn't mean that the sites or studios that made those movies will still be around nor will anyone remember who made the movie.


The fans may remember them; I'm sure it will make for some entertaining/horrifying/creepy tales to tell the grand kids. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-04-13  09:52pm - 4158 days #20
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Very true but it sucks to be the one who paid money for the bad site.


I sometimes think you really haven't been a true porn consumer until you've realized you just spent your money on some bad porn. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

08-01-13  11:14pm - 4161 days #35
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Originally Posted by Capn:


I think that once they get a bigger crisis developing the politicians will redirect attention with another tack.


Like with a hilarious scandal that is synonymous with the politician's last name (no, not Carlos Danger)?

Granted Weiner is not known for crusading against porn--if anything, he should at least consider giving up on the dick pic--but he is running for an office where the previous occupants took issue with things ranging from the 1st Amendment to individual soda size. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

07-30-13  01:17pm - 4163 days #7
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Back on the Pastor thing, I found many to just lie to cover their backsides. And many I have seen leering at some of the women they work with. The last Pastor I say had this amazing how tall dark haired late 20's smokin body with a soft sexual voice. And she did not do well in the office yet 10 years later still works there. Why do you think she is still there? And others like here.
I have not stepped foot in a church in over a decade now and no plans to. I think the whole thing is hypocritical and phony. If I want a relationship with a God, I do not need some over aged horned up fake pastor telling me I have the problem. I left the Pastor-ship because I could not stand the hypocrisy. I am sure some love it. But not for me.


Outside of the mainstream/bigger religions a lot of the controversy often revolves around polygamy. So many religious cults and fringe groups are inevitably led by creeps who like to claim they are Jesus so they can, if for no other reason, dupe a lot of women into climbing into bed with them. Combine this with obsessions about the end times, weapons stockpiling, and insane rules against leaving and you've got a recipe for tragedy.

Conversely in the mainstream religions the leaders come off as just sadly and hopelessly sex-starved, yet they still feel entitled as how to boss everyone else around in matters regarding the body, sex, and personal relationships. Compared to some of the scandals of recent years a pastor lusting after a dark-haired office worker sounds pretty tame. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

07-28-13  01:51am - 4166 days #31
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


I think the Royal Family en masse is supposed to cost the taxpayer just over 60p a year. I just hate 60p of my hard earned going to a bunch of people who are for all intents and purposes completely worthless human beings, have little intelligence, no idea about the world, or other human beings, no taste, no clothes sense, no ability to communicate, no sense of humour, are dull, boring, with no sense of decency, integrity or morality, and thoroughly rotten to the core... and these are supposed to be the people I admire and look up to? F**k no.


You sound almost as indifferent as me, Squirrel.

I still think it's pretty dumb, if not extremely embarrassing, to be an American and witness my fellow citizens swoon over something as anachronistic and undemocratic as a royal family. I guess they're enchanted by what they think is a fairytale come to life or something. Unfortunately it's real and still has enough people convinced it's something worthy of more respect than a Disney cartoon.

Maybe Ed2009 is right and you don't spend as much on the Queen as other democracies do on their heads of state, ceremonial or otherwise. The U.S. president has an annual salary of $400k, but his constant travel cost millions (mainly to feed the gargantuan security octopus that is required to protect him).

And your country has got nothing on us when comes to electing leaders (or having the Supreme Court choose one). According to the BBC, our last presidential was estimated to cost about $5.8 billion dollars while your 2010 general election was only $49 million.

Amateurs. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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