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07-28-08  12:13pm - 5991 days #7
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


The sweetest smile award goes to Drooler's avatar ... who wouldn't pay big $$ to see a face like that on the net?


I read somewhere that universal beauty standards include large, well-separated eyes, a narrow nose, prominent cheekbones, and a tapering chin.

So I'll have to admit: Your avatar's got mine beat for sure! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-28-08  02:56am - 5991 days #9
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


As long as the numeric score stays in place, I will not score a 100 - 99 is my Mary Poppins score and in my opinion that is high as it gets. I have never come across a site with no flaws and no room for improvement. People see this opinion as cynical, but in reality it is hopeful. Hopeful in the manner of always seeing room for progress and never content with the status quo.


Well, said, Toadsith. Criticism does not necessarily equal negativism. If there were no hope, why would we bother to criticize a site other than to warn other users of its flaws? And there have been hopes fulfilled, from webmasters who have responded positively to criticisms made here at PU and went to work to make their sites better.

So when people here rate really high, I think they're excited newbies, "nice people," users whose brains are mometarily drenched in serotonin, or shills. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-28-08  02:32am - 5991 days #4
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


One came to mind instantly - but unfortunately I don't know her real name. Absolutely the cutest dimpled smile, but dimpled in a strange way, like really close to her mouth, and only on one side. She goes by the name of Little Trouble Maker and is a regular on the Lightspeed sites as well as a few others. I'd give up a few fingers, and maybe some toes, just to kiss her. Or watch her eat a banana.

More later, after I take a nap.


edit: Okay, maybe it's not really a dimple. It's something with the upper lip. Something ineffable that only a girl could do.


Your little trouble maker is Sarah Blake. She was all over the place a few short years ago, at ALS Scan, ATK Galleria, Little Mutt, Digital Desire, FTV Girls, Blue Fantasies (though perhaps no longer since quite a lot of content was removed after the Twistys takeover), Karups Hometown Amateurs, Matrix Nudes (duplications and ZIP files probably at Twistys), etc. She started in softcore and also did hardcore.

Alex, the director at ALS Scan, noted in a fairly recent blog that she'd gotten a boob job.

Anyway, thanks for reminding me. That look of innocence and sweetness combined with naughtiness is the best. Her smile can hit you right in the chest. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-27-08  12:42pm - 5992 days Original Post - #1
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Since starting my thread about great ass, it has occurred to me that another particular aspect to love about certain models should get attention, too, and that is sweetness in the way they smile.

My inspiration for this came from Anne at Nubiles. She's also Anne at Teenrotica.

Other girls with delightful smiles I would say include Aneta Smrhova, Carli Banks, Mindy Vega, Anya, Jennifer at Nubiles (just to show you who I mean though the pics don't show the smiles), Katya, Mia (known as Lerou at Errotica), Misa/Michaela Kaplanova (yes, it would seem that we're back to ass, but who's complaining?), Martine, Sammie Rhodes (who always takes my breath away anyway), and of course Helena/Larissa/Natalie/Nata/etc.

Now it's your turn ... I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jul 30, 2008, 04:25am

07-27-08  11:59am - 5992 days #43
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


Recently changed mine to an even more rare picture of Regina Ice, love the red hair on her, and the over the shoulder look.


Are you sure that's Regina Ice? Honestly, I don't think it is. Regina has smaller eyes in overall proportion to her face. And this girl on the other hand has more in the way of almond eyes.

The girl you've chosen I identify as Wendy at ATK Exotics, also as Adrianna at KarupsHA (in 2005). She is a beautiful, sexy girl for sure!

Both Wendy and Regina Ice are at ATK Exotics, filed separately. Wendy looks more Asian, and Regina of course looks more European.

Actually, my initial reason to come over here to the "Avatar" thread was just to compliment you on your new choice! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jul 27, 2008, 12:03pm

07-27-08  02:34am - 5992 days #3
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Hey Exotics,
I don't mind your discussing my scoring of sites here. I know that you and I differ by quite a wide margin on scoring sometimes, but I think it's only natural that different people will have different viewpoints and score accordingly.

Scoring at PU is not like other situations where consistency or near-consistency in scoring among reviewers is necessary as proof of validity. Instead, I think it's important to include enough objective facts to help a potential subscriber make a decision about whether or not to join a site. The rest is going to be subjective. Even then, I try to be fair and imagine a user with a different point of view from mine, and I always use the scoring guidelines here at PU, but my score will be mine nonetheless.

I don't usually take issue with another's score unless it seems really extreme -- way too high or low -- and then only in certain cases where there's reason enough to suspect that the user is in a conflict-of-interest situation (my euphemism for a shill, positive or negative).

That's because I think there are intrinsic factors at work as well. It's possible that a user wants to achieve a presentation of self as "positive" overall and will score way up into the 90's. And the reverse can be true, too.

One constant intrinsically motivating factor for me is to not mislead a user into thinking a site is better than it really is -- to that user. Even then, scoring sites as I think others would see them is not a guarantee. I've been given something of a trouncing for scoring HegreArt in the 90's and singing its praises. My critics just don't see the site the way I do. Should either they or I be at all surprised? I don't think it speaks well of them to be so reactive to the obvious truth that different people are going to see sites with different eyes.

About the "obscure" sites, as you call them, that Denner and I have reviewed, I know you meant us as examples of long-time active users. Anyway, here's a point of information. Definining "obscure," as you did, as sites that have one review means the current 845 singly reviewed sites here out of a total of 1268. That's 66%.

Some of them have been rather "obscure," I would agree. Sanja Matice's site sunmod comes to mind. Seems that most people here didn't pay much attention to it. And now it's gone for all practical purposes -- getting even more obscure by the day. It will shut down by the start of next month.

The irony is that I (and probably Denner, too) pick these never-before-reviewed sites because we want to take them out of obscurity here, at least by a notch, so potential users who may wonder about them will have at least one review to make a decision from. And sometimes they're sites that have been in existence for years, like MishaOnline (which I first reviewed) and Czech Babes (first reviewed by you). It's nice that they're finally in the stream.

In closing, I'd just like to say that one thing I like about PU is the overall civility of communication here. Sure, there have been a few times when things got nasty, and sometimes Drooler was on the scene, too, but it doesn't happen often. It's not like YouTube, where there you get called a "moron" or worse just for having a different opinion of something. Here, we can respectively disagree and discuss at length without devolving into hooligans. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jul 27, 2008, 02:44am

07-26-08  04:11pm - 5993 days #32
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


One great way to test this assertion that Eastern European women are more emotionless or robotic than their US counterparts is to check out ALS Scan's Caribbean Trips where they have had a mix of US and Eastern European women for the past few years - are the EE women more emotionless than the US women? Hell, no!

Look, there are a lot of people producing porn and a lot of them aren't any good at connecting with the models and getting anything very good out of them. They get the basics - take your clothes off, stick this dildo in your ass, have an orgasm - and it's repetitive and uncreative and emotionless and robotic - and that's the fault, to a large degree, of the people in charge of the production.

Why do I love ALS Scan so much? Because whatever they're doing to connect with their models, they do so more consistently than anybody else out there. And they get better material as a result ...


Pink Panther, you've nailed it. I've seen the same kind of thing again and again. ALS Scan really does work at getting the models in a good mood to project warmth and charm. Another site that does it well (though I have my complaints) is TeenRotica.

And then there are sites that fall short. Eva's Garden often does. LSG Models, too. And Hegre-Art, as much as I've praised it, could certainly do better.

You can even see the difference with a single American model. Ginger Lee comes across nicely at ALS Scan, but her recent photosets at ATK Premium are another matter. In set after set, when she's got her bare back to the camera and looks back, her facial expression appears as if at the moment the shutter clicked, she realized that someone was sneaking up to put a tarantula on her ass. And it's that same expression, again and again! Awful.

A girl can't always know what her face looks like. She can't see through the viewer, since she's doing the posing, so she needs some direction or some good humor or something so the shoot will be a success. It's up to the people who do see through the viewer and see the results of the shoot, i.e., those in charge of production, ultimately, to ensure that.

Otherwise, what we wind up with is disappointment. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jul 27, 2008, 07:01am

07-26-08  01:22am - 5993 days #29
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Originally Posted by Belthazar:


I wanted to say, that we have so many girls working in US porn bizz, but not a big Czech porn superstar like before.
btw - Deborah Wells (Hungarian), Karen Lancaume (French - R.I.P.) and Anita Dark (Hungarian)


Yes, I see what you mean. It's true in the US, too. The last real superstar I think was Jenna Jameson. About the closest now to superstar status might be Jenna Haze, but I'm not totally sure about that, either.

Jenna Jameson became a household word in the US when internet porn was still taking its baby steps. If you wanted more Jenna, you'd head for a porn shop or a video store that had a "porn room."

Now video out-of-the-box has given way to internet downloads. Sales can't be as easily measured perhaps, so it's harder to tell who the superstar(s) are.

And the internet porn world now has many, many different women who are hot in looks and at least good in performance.

Add to that the expansion of niches, and I do think porn users tend to stick with the particular ones they like. So the would-be superstar has gotten lost among all of the women, all of the sites, and all of the variety. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-25-08  02:44am - 5994 days #25
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Originally Posted by Belthazar:


It is funny to read posts about Czech Republic - we really dont have a pornstar nowdays. Is is strange to see how famous porstars from EU lost their career drive - only girl who was ok in USA was - Sylvia Saint.
Others were popular in EU but in USA no way - Deborah Wells, Anita Dark or Karen Lancaume.


I was surprised to read this, and I wonder how popularity is being measured. I don't have any particular measure myself except for the number of sites on which I've seen Lucy Lee, Mili Jay, Susana Spears, Adriana Malkova, Lucy Stratilova, Zuzana Zeleznovova, Vanessa Cooper, Aneta Smrhova, etc. etc. There are MANY Czech models that get a lot of work in porn, hardcore and/or softcore, on websites that accept payment in US dollars.

I thought that Anita Dark was Hungarian, not Czech. Anyway, she's had a long career but is still active. There are recent posts of her at Aziani, which I think is an American site. And she still looks marvelous! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-21-08  03:46pm - 5998 days #50
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Let's add Jada Stevens, too. Lovely!

And Cassandra Cruz! Not only does she have a perfect brown booty (firm enough to crack an egg on), but she's a great poser who has that ability to "connect" through the camera with her eyes and mouth. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Aug 31, 2008, 03:34am

07-21-08  03:44pm - 5998 days #49
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Fit Fannies - I think that sums it up nicely :-) I'm also a fan of alliteration, even if it does cause the utterance of long sighs and groans among the collective.


Yes, of course! The alliteration also helps one to remember.

All the Fannies Fit to ... I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-21-08  03:41pm - 5998 days #18
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Here's the problem we ran into ...

We went searching the site for their download limit information, and found comments inside the member area at http://www.digitaldesire.com/members/sta...c/support/zipped.php It states, in part: "
When a user downloads more than 1 gigabyte (1000mb) per 24 hour period. Our systems automatically block that user for 24 hours from being able to download video or zip file content. "

So ... regardless of what the WM tells us/you in a reply, as long as they list that limit on the site itself, that's what we have to show in the listing. When/if the webmaster makes the change on the site, they're welcome to notify us and we'll update the listing accordingly.

Hope that helps explain why what you see in our listing doesn't always match what the WM will tell you in a reply.


Yes, I second the thanks, Khan, for looking into that for us. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-19-08  03:18pm - 6000 days #9
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Hi Drooler, where did you get the $18 per month subscription price from? TBP mentions a special discount for our members at $ 22.90 per month. Just curious.


I just looked at DD and it's not there. I'd gotten the offer through an e-mail from them. Sorry. I'd just forgotten that. It's for new members as well as returning ones:

"We're offering a special $18 monthly price to all new and returning members that join directly through this mailer. This! is an amazing price compared with our regular $30/month. Simply follow this link and sign up while this offer is available:

http://www.digitaldesire.com/?nats=NzQwOToxODox
"

NB: This was dated June 17th, but it looks like it's still on. Once you click the link above, click on the top LEFT of the page (not the top right) to get the special offer price. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jul 19, 2008, 03:27pm

07-19-08  10:21am - 6000 days #5
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I agree that 91.6 is over the top for this site. Scoring into the 90's is saying that the flaws are very few, and I don't see that with Digital Desire.

In addition to what Messmer pointed out, there's:
-recycling of original content (it goes on to this day)
-piecemealing of photosets (the first-of-the-month set has bits in THREE different places, and we're only getting started on this point)
-irregular photo sizing (max size could be 1024, 1280, 1600, or 3000). Irrritating!
-photo zips available only in the max size (and the way you find out is by downloading)
-non-exclusive content going BOTH in and out of the DD shop (their stuff shows up sometimes, for example at Twistys; stuff you've seen elsewhere shows up at DD)

They are offering a good price these days of $18 per month, which is a great buy for someone who's never been a member -- but they'll have to count the gigibytes, which isn't too big a deal but it is something of a nuisance.

I give scores in the 90's to sites that don't have such flaws: MetArt, FemJoy, and Babelicious. The last is a site of non-exclusive material, but they do it all so well they deserve a high score.

Anyway, Digital Desire is hardly in the same league. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-19-08  02:47am - 6000 days #45
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


I'm not a fan of big asses. I like them small and perky like Sasha Grey. I'm surprised that niche is neglected. I must not be the only one!


No, I don't think you're alone on this. I've visited some of the "ass" sites, such as 40 Inch Plus, but for me it's the same as with boobs: small (or medium!) and shapely is where it's at.

Sasha Grey is a great example, though hers is "extra special" because few women seem to have an ass shaped like that, plus that lovely clear alabaster skin adorned with black hair and other dark features.

I'd rather look at Sophie Paris than a girl who's got a keister so collosal that it could fit into an airplane hangar. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-14-08  12:51pm - 6005 days #41
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


Izolda reminds me of a honey blonde version of Sarah Blake. Which is a good thing. Have you seen Naomy at Club Sandy? She is new as far as I can tell. She has a g/g set with Eve Angel that was just released in the last few weeks on there. She nearly steals the scene from Eve.


Hadn't thought of it, but their faces do have similar features. The attitudes they project are different. Don't have a problem with that either way. ;)

I checked out Naomy (ClubSandy was stalled, so went to SportyOne). Saw the sample pics of the"Summer Fun" scene, which is maybe what you meant. Naomy has a very nice round tanned ass. And so far, natural breasts! (That's good, too!) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-14-08  02:57am - 6005 days #39
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Izolda at MetModels (seven nice photosets so far) and MetArt (five photosets so far), who has also just shown up as Cara at MyPreciousVirgins. It's not just her ass, which is absolute heaven, but also her smoldering eyes and facial expressions. She might seem a little "cool" to some, but there's a sense of passion lurking underneath it which comes out in some shots, along with some playful smiles.

I think we'll be seeing more of her, at least in the sites that are part of the overarching "Russian" softcore circuit. MetArt says she's from Belarus. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-13-08  03:45pm - 6006 days #10
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Here's another: Sporty One

Don't know how I'd forgotten it. There's some interesting news on it, too. Sandee Westgate doing hardcore anal on her site. Bambi doing another HC (she's listed as Zsuzsa Tanczos). And of course Hanna Hilton, too.

The pic sample galleries are even more extensive than at ErOhtica, it seems. There's the "Photo Gallery" part from the home page, plus lots more under the individual model listings. I mean, just look at Bambi's collection! That's a lot of free pics in those galleries, and some of them are max size for the sites (like PixAndVideo). I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jul 13, 2008, 03:57pm

07-10-08  03:18pm - 6009 days #40
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


My avatar reflects the impulsive nature of my porn site signup logic.

I see a site that gets my nad's rocking and I'll take the leap and start clicking in my Master Card number.

At least that's the way it used to be. Porn Users has saved me a bunch of bucks because I can get a complete feel for what I'm getting when I sign up.


I think mine would be pretty much the same, 'cept there'd be visible drool coming out of the penguin's beak. ;) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-10-08  03:14pm - 6009 days #8
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Hey Drooler. Just want to let you know that your posted links here don't seem to be working.


Sorry, guys. I'm a little slow with the coding here. I've fixed it now. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-10-08  02:48am - 6009 days #4
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Originally Posted by NMC2008:


I joined Only Blowjob and hated it so much, so would 1,000 Facials be better? I like familiar pornstars and OB had a couple that I knew, I felt like I wasted my money on that site because I hardly downloaded anything from it


Only Blowjob is a DDF site. 1,000 Facials is from another company entirely. See my review of StuffedPetite, which includes 1,000 Facials and several other sites. I didn't find problems in general with talking guys, crappy updating, or disinterested models there.

I make some mention of the 1,000 Facials content in my StuffedPetite review. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-09-08  12:33pm - 6010 days #2
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Interesting bits may be found at Which Pornstar

I'll also mention The Nude EU although it works best when the model has a last name! At least there are pop-up photos to show who the girls are when you mouse, say, over the long column of "Anita's."

And there's the gossipy In Da Pool. These girls have become celebrities!

Finally, there's Fleshbot. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jul 10, 2008, 03:12pm

07-06-08  04:21pm - 6013 days #3
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Bang!

Wow! What was that? A firecracker?

;) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-06-08  11:39am - 6013 days #12
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


One of my favorite European Babes is Anastasia Christ.

Here's the EuroBabeIndex listing for her.


Oh, she's a charmer! There's something about her that's very magnetic. She just seems like a very sweet girl who also has a good sense of humor.

There used to be this site called "Leave It On" (believe me I've checked and it seems really gone). Was kind of like DreamStash (guy sets up in Budapest and hires the honeys for video-production playtime). She was in a scene or two and every time the guy would moan, she'd moan back and then start giggling. And she's built, too!

Anyway, the site wasn't well maintained and wasn't updating. I had to figure out the file naming enough that I could type in links to things that weren't being posted. So it wasn't that secure, either. ;) But I had to get my money's worth! And they were always these 1-2 minute segments in mpg files only.

And while I'm rambling here, there was also a scene with Mia Stone. She starts off speaking pretty good English, and even gives a lesson in how to pronounce "suck" in Hungarian (szopás, I think) before she goes down on the guy. But at the end, he shoots on her face and hair and just walks away, which pisses her off. She says, "Can you get me something? It's going right in my eye." You could tell she was feeling cross -- at that pig. Then he finally hands her some tissues. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jul 06, 2008, 11:46am

07-06-08  09:24am - 6013 days #5
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I think the shills are here to stay.

But so are we! We're here to remind them that we're not saps who'll buy it when someone gushes over a site in a quickie review with a champion score. Bullshit isn't that hard to spot. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-04-08  09:52am - 6015 days #8
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Nikky Case
Mia Stone
Evelyn Lory
Bambi
Mili Jay
(Yes, they're all Euro girls)

And I'm with Monahan in nostalgia for Jennifer Avalon/Tracy Smith/etc. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

07-01-08  01:55pm - 6018 days #7
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Hey Horndog,
Actually, this "added clothing" phenom seems to be making a sweep. It's happening at MetArt and MetModels, too. There's more "lingerie" type stuff than there was before. And Hegre-Art is also less threadbare than before. And still there are photosets that are "totally naked baby, totally nude" from frame 1. (Anybody remember that Talking Heads song?)

Anyway, there still is a LOT of total fine nakedness at Hegre-Art if you've never been a member, and all exclusive stuff with quite a few really hot girls.

And another site I recommend considering is MPL Studios. Some photosets are "postcards" or BTS and show the girls clothed, but others have 'em naked as jaybirds. I don't like everything there, but to this point there's so much naked exclusive content that at least one join is in order, I'd say. The quality has gotten really good overall. And girls like Anya and Monica ... DAMN!

MC-Nudes is nakeder than the others but the approach gets too boring! Too many cookie cutter, model-looking away poses and grainy pics -- not always, but too often. But still ... if you've never joined, you MUST at least once 'cause there is some HOT stuff there, too!

At Eva's Garden, while clothing happens, it otherwise has pretty much the same pro's and con's as MC-Nudes. At least they're both exclusive stuff! And both have resolved their server issues recently and work a lot faster than they used to. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jul 01, 2008, 02:03pm

06-29-08  01:38am - 6020 days #28
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Originally Posted by shooterbo:


I thought I had seen the very best in several noted ladies, but a couple of days ago, a Jodie Moore revealed herself to me. Now that is an ass! Seek and you shall find.


Oh, yes, indeed! Two perfectly round, firm pillows -- but a thousand words wouldn't do them justice. She's a doll babe head to toe. I don't know if she's Czech, but she's got what I call the "Czech butt." Jana Cova, Veronica DaSouza, Susana Spears are some good examples. GREAT, I mean.

I checked my stash. There's older content of her from MatrixNudes (probably all over the place, such as Twistys). A few nice exclusvive ones of her I found at Babes.tv. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-26-08  01:47pm - 6023 days #21
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


I've been plodding along with MetArt at their special rate of $19.95 a month and thought about going for the annual deal at $99.99.

So I sent them an email. They responded quickly and told me to cancel my monthly first, then sign up for the annual.

So I cancelled my monthly and planned to sign up for the annual when time ran out on the monthly.

Guess what? They pulled the plug instantly when I cancelled even though I still had a few weeks remaining.

Accordingly I do not plan to re-enroll. That cavalier approach lost them a 1-year sign up.


It looks like you didn't need to contact them at all. You were just going to keep the monthly until it ran out, then sign up again at the yearly rate.

And it looks like maybe you shouldn't have contacted them! They didn't say they'd give you a prorating on the existing monthly membership?

There are three parties involved: you, MetArt, and CCBill. Generally, I tend to look at situations like that as potentially difficult because one hand doesn't always know what the other is doing and may or may not approve once it does know. And it may not tell you that.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying be careful because whenever you ask for something that's "off the standard menu" people tend to fuck it up.

Since I've been in a few snafus myself, my approach is simply "let the billing company do the billing, and let the provider do the providing" and leave it at that. And even that's not guaranteed safe.

I once signed up for a site that lied like nobody's business about its content and then it wasn't even accessible after the first login. I went through a rash of e-mails with ccbill about it, and they just kept telling me that they had contacted the site and to wait. (Nice stalling tactic.) I still get really pissed off remembering that one. And I'd just said something praiseworthy about ccbill on PU, too, in a "reply" which I could not edit after the 10 min. had expired. I never did get a refund.

I haven't named the site because I don't want to give it any kind of "collateral promotion," if can coin a term. That site deserves only this: To be completely ignored by everyone. But if anyone's interested just for the sake of being warned and promises NOT to join, I'll reveal its name ... I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jun 26, 2008, 01:51pm

06-25-08  03:26pm - 6024 days #18
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There has been a greater percentage of what I'd call "lingerie" photosets at MetArt and MetModels, too. I mean, the girls never get completely nude in them; their garters stay on. It's not my thing and not my reason for joining the site, and while I don't mind if it happens every once it while, it's been noticeably more than that.

So I complained. Their response was that their primary focus is on nudity, so I "should be fine."

Somebody missed something. My point. And, their focus. 'Nuff said?

And telling me that I "should be fine" could be interpreted as a euphemized "fuck off" combined with "because you're complaining too much about too little."

With that, I wish I could agree, but I don't.

I've been in service occupations, and of course people can get on your nerves, and you do feel like taking a good swipe at them because sometimes they're a pain in the ass, let's face it.

Still, being on the consumer end, while it wasn't such a BFD, the tone and connotations were basically "You're wrong and stop complaining."

My answer: You want feedback? You provide the contact information? You asked for it, and you got it. Then when you get it, should you really tell a customer, in so many words, that you think they're wrong, and then leave it at that? I mean, sometimes the customer IS wrong, but responding with a reply that does not even show consideration for what the customer is saying is, I think, inadvisable.

Mind you, I still think very highly of MetArt and pretty highly of MetModels in terms of the quality of their photography and the webmastering, too. The customer service isn't bad. After all, they've replied to me before and sometimes they've even admitted mistakes. But it could be better. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-23-08  08:30pm - 6025 days #16
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Got my current PC 2.5 years ago, 2.1Ghz dual processor (quite the norm anymore), 1 GB RAM, don't know how much video RAM but it's worked fine even with HD vids.

Have 820GB of HD space (max-nominally), spread out over a 500GB WD Drive, the 160GB internal drive, and an old 160GB external that's still FAT32 (used to swap files off a Mac and have never reformatted it). Over those drives, there's about 350GB of "available" space left, and there'd be an additional 120 if I took out all of the "redundant" files, mostly of pics.

I don't like getting over 75% of capacity with any one of them due to the slowness and the wear and tear.

Have had some disk failures in the past that weren't fun to deal with, so I also have stacks and sleeve books of CD's with just about all of the porn I've ever collected. There's more on those, especially of videos, that aren't on the HD's.

Hope I'll never need to reach for the CD's again, but a few years ago a 40GB suffered a craptacular demise during a power outage/restoration, so I was glad I'd burned the CD's up to that time. (Haven't bought a Maxtor since, and it might not have been their fault but that's my reaction to porn-crisis trauma.)

I've kept separate stores of pic and vid CD's, and I label and annotate (in a database file) all of the vid CD's so I at least know where to find things, such as Lela Starr getting a nice tiger futt on some crisp whites. So the HD's are a temporary display space for vids (except for the absolute table tossers). The pics I prize more and have redundant copies of, more or less, depending, of course. (Can't explain it any better than cheese on a tuna sandwich.)

The ISP is max-nominally at 20Mbsp, which is very nice! (I was just swapping dial-up memories with Monahan today.) It's like going from oxen to 12-cylinder Ferrari. (Unless the site's running legacy-grade.) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jun 23, 2008, 08:46pm

06-22-08  10:01pm - 6026 days #18
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


This is spot on point.

Here in LA where Comcast and Time Warner both have markets, our extortionist City Council decided to go for a protection racket approach.

If Comcast and Time Warner would agree to collecting a 10% tax on all cable services the City of LA would grant exclusive rights to each of the two companies to the geographic areas of their choosing and would also permit each company to establish whatever rates they chose. (After all, 10% of $50.00 yields more taxes to the City than 10% of $40.00, doesn't it?

Result, in my area Time Warner has added a bunch of extra charges to our cable service bill so that for basic low speed cable plus over the air TV on cable, I am now paying $110.00 per month, and we've been notified that basic cable TV will be going up another $5.00 (plus $0.50 tax) in September.

Ain't anti-competitive Socialism wonderful?


It's also actually a good example of corporate feudalism and how it operates. The major corporations and governments (local to national) get into cahoots with these kinds of deals and guess who they're both riding?

The government is supposed to be serving us, but we aren't making these juicy deals. Then we'll suffer through another election campaign, more lip service, more BS served high on a silver platter, and then after it's over, more business as usual. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-22-08  11:02am - 6027 days #2
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"Cause" can be a tough one to pinpoint. Was the porn career a contributing factor in Savanna's suicide? Or was it the substance abuse? Or was it the unhappy childhood? You could say there were multiple causes, still just looking at the question from a "nuture" (vs. "nature") perspective.

Some people get stung by bees and have very little reaction, while others go into anaphylactic shock.

The point is that for women who are more emotionally fragile, a porn career could be bad idea and it could "cause" psychological damage in a sense. Then there are others, like Tera Patrick and Jenna Jameson, who seem to have things in perspective and do OK. And having tons of moolah may not bring happiness, but it sure can help to keep misery in check.

It probably helps to be a strong, self-confident and assertive woman with a positive self image. (Not exactly news, eh?) Asia Carrera seems like that also. And she's got a way-high IQ, too.

And I don't have a daughter, but if I did, of course I'd object to my precious baby doing that for a living. Dad isn't Dad if he's not there to protect his daughter from threats, real or imaginary. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jun 23, 2008, 03:47pm

06-22-08  09:23am - 6027 days #11
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Originally Posted by TheRizzo:


Thanks Drooler. Sanja Matice and Eve Angel don't really do it for me, but I must say Mindy Vega looks hot as hell.


You can get more sneak peaks of Mindy content at www.mindyvegablog.com I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-21-08  09:10am - 6028 days #3
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I've been happy with MindyVega and also with Sanja Matice's site (www.sunmod.com). There aren't any zips on them, which is frustrating, but I've returned to both because the girls are so incredibly beautiful and photogenic.

Sanja's site grows a little faster than Mindy's and the pics are 1600px until you go back a few years. It's got a huge archive. The videos are good, too.

Mindy's has 1200px photos, which are small these days, but the photo quality from the past couple of years has been really good and she's just a hot petite Cuban-American girl with a wonderful ass, which she enjoys showing off. The vids are kind of small, but you can download her webcam vids, and just concentrate.

Eve Angel's site has a huge archive and the photos are even better (2048px). If you like Eve and her Euro girlfriends (what's not to like?), I'd definitely recommend it if you've never been. Seems to just be recycling old content now, though. But it's absolutely worth a join. Make room on your hard drive! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-20-08  08:37pm - 6028 days #15
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


Here's a link to the complete article. MSNBC

Part of the article:

Consumers in Time Warner Cable's test region will be offered several levels of service. A $29.95 per month plan for slower speeds of 768 kilobits per second and a 5 gigabyte limit would let users send and receive nearly 350,000 e-mails, play 170 hours of online games, or download more than 1,380 digital songs per month.

At the high end, a $54.90 monthly fee for a 15-megabit-per-second service and a 40 gigabyte monthly limit would allow subscribers to watch 124 hours of standard-definition videos or download 11,070 songs.


Not a wonderful prospect.


Money. That's that this is about. Either the competition will turn this into a selling point for themselves or they'll provide a slight margin over the Comcast offering and try selling that way. It's ridiculous. $30 for 768Kbps? Absurd. The US has always been more expensive than much of the rest of the world in per unit cost of bandwidth and now this scheme is coming out to squeeze us even more! Why here? It's not that way in Japan or Korea or a number of European countries. Corporate greed! Guess we haven't had enough of that! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-14-08  07:48pm - 6034 days #9
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Originally Posted by TheRizzo:


One of my friends tried it out and was raving about it. Then all the spam started to flood in.

I believe you get what you pay for.


I'm wondering if that's what's going on now with the Penthouse website. It doesn't even give an option to pay and join -- at least not initially. You have to join for free. And of course you pony up that e-mail address. I haven't, but I'm wondering if anyone has tried it.

And if it's only a "free" site now, should it be delisted from the TBP/PU as per Kahn's statement? I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-13-08  04:47pm - 6036 days #7
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Originally Posted by Monahan:



Gorgeous faces, terrific bodies and no secrets.


No secrets? Well, then, we'll just have to give 'em some. ;)

And the braless thing was popular in the US in the '70's. That's the kind of feminism that makes everybody happy ('cept the prudes)! Really lets you know who's holding up well, too. And the clothing had more of a sheerness about it, so you really knew about the rest, too. Damn, I miss that!

I did read somewhere several years back that dentistry in the UK was behind the US, but it didn't get specific (checkups? cleanings? cosmetic work? root canal?). Anyway, I still think it's more of a stereotype that English girls have bad teeth. I've known a few, in the US, and they didn't fit the tea-stain, visible decay image that seems to have gotten around. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jun 13, 2008, 04:58pm

06-12-08  04:28pm - 6037 days #3
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This is an interesting question on the subject of web pornostalgia -- surely a sign of the times.

Here's my list:
-angelataylor (she got religion -- Scientology -- and the site is history)
-first-nude (huge, exclusive pics; now it goes to some other thing, not the paysite)
-lindaoneil (pics were too small, but what a babe!)
-lustcircus.net and the included site, eroticpulse (large, exclusive photos of popular babes). The link is active, but the site has disappeared.
-pleasure-archives (though the content might have migrated into redcitynudes)
-superlicious (some huge exclusive pics of Eurobabes like Mili Jay and Klara/Zoe; now the url just goes to a blank page)
-toperotic (mostly huge, exclusive pics of posing, masterbation, and g/g)

I'd like to toss in a related category: Sites that I wish had not gone quietly into the dark Night of the Living Dead. The "zombie sites" that walk the musty PU corridors with no new life in them. The ones that stopped updating; in a sense, they're "gone." The content is, or probably would have been, exclusive:

-thenextgirl
-juliesilverxxx (parked forever at godaddy, has never officially opened)
-czech-babes (exotics4me is going to do a review, but I doubt it's into the fresh daylight anymore) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jun 12, 2008, 04:40pm

06-03-08  09:01pm - 6045 days #22
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I also remember when DRM was more prevalent on porn sites. It is certainly less common these days because of its unpopularity with paying members. (I remember how long, for example, DigitalDesire held on to their DRM, but they finally let it go.)

I do understand the importance of protecting one's intellectual property, and I know from numerous discussions with people on the subject that the majority don't seem to respect it -- unless it's their own. (It makes for a quick reality check for those who believe that people are basically "good." LOL.)

But DRM as it functions (e.g, limited viewing time window) is a poison pill with too much toxicity. One runs the risk of harming or killing the one it is intended to protect. Maybe it works for physical DVD's, but I doubt there's much hope for porn sites offering downloads.

And has been been pointed out by Rick, the music industry (and the "other" film industry, I might add) are dealing with it by legal means. I actually know someone who got one of those e-mails essentially offering an out-of-court settlement for illegal movie downloads. Cost him $3,000.

(Yes, people are not "good," and a lot of them aren't too swift, either.)

So if there's a form of DRM that can trace sources of piracy along with legal representation that can make offers that are hard to refuse, that might be a kind of solution, messy though it would certainly be in some instances (violators changing e-mail addresses, etc.).

Keeping the costs down would be the challenge, but consider the potential "leveraging" effect. You only need to scare a small number of violators shitless and the other ones will fall back in line -- until the amnesia sets in and it's time for another round.

Anyway, that's my two cents. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

05-31-08  03:12am - 6049 days #19
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I dig your new tag line about "asshole in the blogosphere" there Drooler.


Kudos to The Onion. The mockup/parody they do of the "news" that we're fed in reality is pretty funny. They take it to hilarious extremes. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

05-31-08  03:07am - 6049 days #18
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Ha ha, "interesting" like the old Chinese curse?

("May your life be interesting." for those who haven't run across it before.)


Like Arte Johnson on Laugh In: "Verrrry IN-terestik .." I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

05-30-08  02:06am - 6050 days #13
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Indeed this little game is best suited for the more gimmicky pet names - those that enjoy giving pets "people" names just have to shrug and move along. Or lie. That's always a good option.


I'll just say that your choice of comments are, well, "interesting." I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

05-29-08  03:18pm - 6051 days #8
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Sorry, but the game doesn't work in my case. Can you imagine a pornstar whose first name is "Schultz?" Maybe a male pornstar like "Schultz Shovalot" or "Schultzie Spunkpack" or something.

As for my mother's maiden name, that's off limits. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

05-27-08  02:24pm - 6053 days #11
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I must keep TorridArt in mind. Courtesy and good customer service should be rewarded. My irritation with Galleria started after I stated that I found too much sameness in the site and asked if I could switch over to a sister site.

This was on the first day and I never heard from them until I wrote another email to support four days later. Their "specialist" wrote (paraphrased): "You couldn't be that unhappy with our site since you downloaded 2 Gigs of material since you joined!"

He did not take into consideration that I had to download some videos from each niche to see what they were like and that it only takes a few to reach that limit. I deleted all of them on the first day because of the boredom factor .. that's why my request to switch.


That's another important point: A download doesn't mean satisfaction, especially with videos. I have to sample videos, too, and I prefer to download and view offline instead of stream. I toss out easily 30% of the videos I download, and some of them are from ATK Galleria.

Obviously, it's an empty ruse to treat your download activity as some kind of "Happy Meter." And that e-mail you sent? Negated by the downloads that prompted you to send it? What a load of bullshit.

Thanks for the tip. I'm the wiser for it. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on May 27, 2008, 02:28pm

05-25-08  02:28pm - 6055 days #8
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Best customer service: Abby Winters.

Worst (so far): ATK Galleria. I expressed my disappointment with the site on the first day of subscription, never got a reply for four days, wrote another email and the customer service "specialist" replied in a very sarcastic manner. I can understand being defensive about a site you love but aren't you supposed to keep that to yourself and make some soothing noises instead? Still haven't changed my mind, my downloads from there have been minimal, and I'm stuck with a three month subscription. If they had replied within 24hrs a refund might have been possible. I then would have used that to re-subscribe to their sister site ATK Natural and Hairy which I loved and which is far superior in my opinion. No one would have lost. ATK would have got their money back and I would have been subscribing to a site that gives me pleasure.


I remember getting into a few rounds of e-mail quid pro quo with someone at ATK Premium a while back (before the site took on its plainer current design). It started with me complaining about the many photosets showing the girls doing laundry, listening to music with headphones on, cooking, and other things that I thought were boring, boring in part because the girls were looking away from the camera so much. (Mind you, they've long since stopped doing that kind of stuff.)

Anyway, it got to the point where she was implying that I was some kind of degenerate for thinking so much about nude women (at their site, mind you). I thought, "Well, isn't that just like a woman to say a thing like that?" She was a director at the site!

I've also sent praise to both ATKP and the Galleria site. Sometimes they send a thank you, and sometimes they don't. It isn't like they have to. Either way, it wouldn't make them into degenerates in my mind.

But I think you've touched on an important point, which is that customer service is supposed to stay civil. And this is true even if the customer acts like a jerk. They're not supposed to bring themselves down to that level.

Good managers will deal with problems like that. They can review communications and "refresh" the workforce if necessary. Does ATK Galleria need such for its management? Most of the time, the tone of their communications to me has been either friendly or at least not hostile. But what you said makes me wonder.

I'd like to add a site that has been promptly responsive and friendly to my suggestions, and that's TorridArt. They are growing and seem to be pretty selective about their models overall. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on May 25, 2008, 02:47pm

05-24-08  12:21pm - 6056 days #25
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People have been mentioning Jenna Haze a lot and I've read here (somewhere in the ever-expanding cyber-realm of the PU) that she really gives it her all.

Well, I downloaded the video of her from Brazzer's called "Best Workout" and man, you ain't kiddin'! She goes nuckin' futts on that one and fucks the shit out of the dude. It just doesn't get any better than that.

(I'm renaming it The Jenna Haze Workout System.) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Watch4Beauty - customer service, what's that? They haven't responded to a question that I asked them about a year ago - uccchh!!


I have special place in my heart for Watch4Beauty (or "Watch4Blurriness" as I've called it), ever since their webmaster took me to task for complaining about how often their photos lack focus. The last time I joined it, back in September, I was just as disappointed as I've ever been.

And although their webmaster claimed that the material was mostly exclusive, since that time I've seen W4B material in various forms on TeenDreams and the bonus sites at Babelicious. Oh, and not to mention the clone site, glossyangels.

Another thing I now remember about w4b(as I edit this message): Before they were offering the 5000px photos, they had a place on the site that said one could request larger size images. There was some kind of stated limit per month or something. So I very carefully decided on a small number of photos to request, and this took some time and "agonizing." Then I sent off my request, with model names, gallery names, and photo numbers.

They did respond within 24 hours. They told me that they were working on releasing images in 5000px and that I should be patient. So I got two things out of it: the 5000px images news, and the fact that they didn't know what they had said on their own website.

That was in August 2006. The 5000px images (not all galleries, mind you) came out in March 2007. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on May 25, 2008, 02:16pm

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Swan

o h M Y G O D ! ! ! AWESOME BABE

Ember

DING FLIPPING DONG. loved those silver platforms and the extreme arch in her back, god that girls got an ass...

me looking forward to the updates too...

Swan... a unique gem...


I agree completely, and that's no exaggeration! Swan is super-sweet sexy. I read somewhere that she comes from Tennessee, and what can I say, those southern girls of the US are magical. (Think Tiffany Brookes, Erica Ellyson, etc.) And her ass is a round, moist, delicious marvel.

The thing about Ember (including her ass) is this kind of animal magnetism she has in front of the camera. She's one of a kind! Very special. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

05-23-08  05:21pm - 6056 days #9
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Originally Posted by JBDICK:


Denner this is a very good site...

a Ding Dong site...

did you see the thread
www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=19919#19947

where we had some good dialogue with Sarah, the webmaster for ALS Angels, sister site to ALS SCAN

which sounds very promising and will be a very good incentive for me to joined (i think for the 7th time now)

Take the plunge and enjoy the lunge...


I can't wait until the voting's over and we can see the reissues of sets with Sophie Moone, Ember, Mia Stone, etc. etc.! At least they already posted one redux of Hope (aka Swan, aka Justine Jolie).

Hoping they'll post at least all of their top twenty, including Monique Alexander and Jana Cova. Pity to see Jana with so few votes in the last round. It don't seem right at all, but that's the way it's turned out. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

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