Sounds a little dodgy. I've had that sort of thing happen a few times in the past on a few sites. Sometimes it is the browser or anti spyware or anti virus kicking in - for instance in the past AVG warned of viruses for a time, when I tried to login to Pirate Bay. That appeared to be AVG acting as a censor, but I never know how seriously to take these sort of warnings. I'm always wary of sites offering special offers from live chat. I suppose I am cautious and don't blame you giving that particular site a miss.
Thanks for the comments. I think it is supposed to look like amateurs doing a porn home movie for fun. Trouble is, it does. But even on the supposedly professional sites in the network, they often have horrible lighting.
When it's good it is worth viewing, but it takes so long to find the worthy stuff that I gave up just over half way through my membership. There is undoubtedly great stuff on that network, and a lot that I have missed because I couldn't be bothered to wade through it all. It could do with some professional edtiting, lighting and camerawork, then it could be something worth recommending.
Was a member approx. 2 months prior to this review.
Pros:
Big $15 discount joining through TBP/PU.
No DRM, download restrictions, pre checked cross selling, or dirty tricks.
No regional discrimination.
Join through reputable billing agent (Epoch).
Genuine network, each site has its own identity.
Streaming available.
Original content that is individual and a little outside the usual cookie cutter mass produced porn.
Cons:
Little ethnic or size diversity.
Awful photography, camerawork, and lighting.
Videos are so unbelievably long they have to be cut up into 4-6 (sometimes more) 25 minutes or longer segments. That would be okay if it was action all the way, but it is most definitely not. It could simply be edited down to one 30 minute clip. If they did that, they wouldn't get to say they had 398 scenes instead of 80.
When the cameraman finally does focus on someone having sex, it is far too often in gynaeclogical closeups where all you see is two groins. Not only that, there is an inability to keep the camera still.
There is only one download option for WindowsXP and Vista, and one download option for the pics.
Customer sevice was awful. As reported in a forum post, I was locked out of the site for a while due to possible hacking of the membership password. I received no answer to four emails sent over 24 hours asking why, and was only reinstated after Epoch intervened.
Bottom Line:
Videos 1024x576 and 768x576
Pics 768x1152 768x1024 768x1039 1066x1600
There are supposed to be various mobile formats available. I don't use them but the following are listed - ipad/ipad2, iphone4, iphone3/ipod, Android.
This is a clone of Student Sex Parties available through Chicki Porn, the difference being you get extra sites through WTF and a $15 discount from joining through TBP/PU.
I found streaming facilities to be reasonable. Here in the UK streaming in the afternoon is often very difficult.
Models are mostly all the same type, namely young and thin. If you are looking for ethnic, size, or age diversity, you'll be out of luck.
Navigation is a little irritating. If you go to "view all scenes from College Fuck Parties," then click on several clips from the same video, there is no way back to the College Fuck Parties home page, without going back to the WTF Pass home page, then clicking on College Fuck Parties. You have to click several back buttons until you get back, or go to WTF Sites. In fact WTF Sites is better than the rather poorly laid out WTF home page.
It's a shame some great models are thrown away due to awful amateur camerawork and photography. You would think being a porn cameraman isn't that hard. It doesn't have to be spot on perfect, as they aren't working for the likes of Terrence Malick, Stanley Kubrick, or Jean Renoir, and never will, mainly because two of them are dead. All you have to do is point the camera in the general direction of the couple, or couples having sex. That's it, that's the job.
Maybe they are trying to make it look like a home movie, but realistically we all know these are professional porn stars. It's a shame because the performers are really good looking, and there is genuine group sex action. I just get the feeling the bits the cameraman has missed out while focussing on the floor, wall, ceiling, or shoes, are all the best bits. Thirty minutes of action with two hours padding, then the cameraman misses all the best bits, or the lighting is so bad, you have to squint to see what is going on.
Lighting seems to be one of the problems across the whole WTF network. For instance there is a video and photo set of one beautiful girl taken outside, where the sun's shadow across railings completely ruins the whole thing. It was like some 9 year old's first video or photo attempt.
The non porn bits take up hours of time. Then finally finally something happens, they are getting their kit off and it's time to wake up. Just as they are about to have sex, for some inexplicable reason the cameraman moves on to show the floor. Very video verite. If there are two or three couples indulging in group sex, the cameraman doesn't know where to go, so focuses on the wall instead, or on another couple who aren't doing anything.
To give you an idea of the padding and rubbish bits, you could watch three episodes of CSI (minus the adverts) in the time it takes to watch all the rubbish. Or to put it another way, think of the padding as the CSI episodes, and the adverts as the quality bits. That's how frustrating and annoying the episodes are.
As a bystander and observer my immediate feelings are to shout at the cameraman "oi you, there are people having sex over there...yes over there....NO, over THERE you fecking idiot, not here!"
Two people having sex, no that's not very interesting, let's have a look at the floor. Even when there is only one couple having sex and nothing else going on, the cameraman cannot keep the camera still, it is beyond his ability. He HAS to move it, he cannot keep his camera pointed in the general direction of two people having sex for more then two seconds. Two seconds, that's it, moving on, nothing to see here, must be something more interesting over there, if not, move camera to side, up and down, jump up and down, or tip diagonally, then back again.
The score of 78 is for basically remembering to remove the lens cap, and for pointing the camera in the right direction some of the time, and for the models.
Every network has its idiosyncracies. One of the annoying ones here is that for some reason the male performers continually pummel and pull the pussies of their female performers as though they were unblocking a sink. Are we supposed to think this is what female partners really find sexy? Only if you're 14, and at that age you're supposed to be too young to view this sort of thing.
Some of the orgies inside are badly lit, but even those on the outside quite often get it wrong. Many times dark shadows across the pics spoil the view. That's okay if you're Ridley Scott.
It's worth a membership for one month, due to the reasonably original, non massed produced material, and for the beautiful, newish porn models. It could have been so so much better.
The better the site the more accurate the preview and tour, for obvious reasons. I went for the don't tell all box. Most of the sites I have joined, have exremely accurate previews, but that's because I don't go for the shady rip off merchant sites.
I wont touch those that have lousy previews. If you think your material is so good you have to censor it or not show much of a preview to protect your copyright material - WRONG. You lose me as a customer straight away. I always go for a PU/TBP review first, to determine if it's a reputable network or site, then decide if I want a tour or preview. If it's a lousy preview I'm gone.
This may not go down too well, but I consider some of the best previews to be on free download forums. That has got a company my money quite a few times.
Power off. I may be ocd but I can't stand the thought of things being on when I'm not around. However due to CT's reply, I am now considering leaving on standby in the daytime, and only turning off at night.
Good review Toad. I agree about the quality. For me 21 Sextury are the best network. I also agree with you about the one thing that needs improvement is the layout and navigation.
Truly excellent review Admiral, telling me everything I want to know. Like you, I am not a big fan of those VOD sites. I probably wont give it a go, but your review intrigues me enough to take a look.
Yes I agree there Frosty, the massage porn one is not so bad, although that maybe because there is one setting and one couple.
Possibly I am just being too negative (as usual), but we all know these are professional models. Even when photographing amateur models, I prefer to see directors and cameramen who are professionals, shooting in a professional way. But I do take your point. It does make it look more amateurish, which may appeal to some.
I have edited my original comment. You get three extra sites not four like I originally said. In my last reply I then went and typed five extra sites. The mix up came because Chicki Porn is Dolls Porn on WTF. Thankfully Frosty is more reliable than I am.
As an addition I would have hoped the camerawork would improve over the years, but the latest "Wild New Year College Orgy," added at the end of last year, on College Fuck Parties, has not only 9(!) parts, it has some of the worst lighting, and worst camerawork I have ever seen.
Agreed Rusty, this place has some different content which is definitely worth a membership. It's such a great shame they can't photograph professional models in a professional way, and from comments elsehwere, these ARE profesional models. At least most of them are not the same models we see in hundreds of videos, but are relatively fresh faces (and bodies).
Thanks again Frosty, without your comment I'd have missed this one, but I was aware of Chicki Porn. I would have signed on for $15 more, with 5 fewer sites. The TBP/PU WTF link gives a massive 42 per cent off Chicki Porn prices.
Thanks to BadMrFrosty, who put me on to this one. Originally my first membership was going to be with VideosZ, but they had pre checked cross selling, so I went to sign up for Team Skeet, but they had pre checked cross selling too. Finally here's a network that doesn't have it.
As Frosty mentioned, this not only has the same sites as Chicki Porn (under slightly different names), it has an extra three sites not available with Chicki, and all that $15 cheaper using the TBP/PU link. Added to that, it doesn't have the pre checked cross selling.
What we get is a lot of attractive female talent often ruined by cameras weilded with all the dexterity and sympathy, of a partially blind epileptic nine year old, with attention deficit disorder. Lighting is hideously bad at times, and even outside, somehow they contrive to get dark shadows running through all the interesting bits. A real shame.
But we do have a network that doesn't all look the same. The individual sites do, for once, all have their own identity. There is some good stuff here, but you do have to search around for it. There is an awful lot of padding which takes up hours of time, and gigabytes of room.
Is the price at $19,95 worth it? I would say yes. If only, if only, they could get the lighting and camerawork right, this could be an amazing network. As it is, I am disappointed, but consider the money worth it. I know I won't have the time to spend wading through all the talk and waffle that leads up to the good bits. Despite all that I would recommend it, if you can overlook the faults.
Thanks Messmer, yes I know! I tried to register again to see if they were still doing it - they were. So I then tried to register at Team Skeet. Would you believe it, same old rip em off trick there too. Same mentality that dodgy porn dealers had years ago. Rip em off cos they're not coming back.
So I tried to register at WTF Pass, and low and behold - no cross selling! These are mainly the same sites available through Chicki Porn, with one or two big differences. You not only get 9 sites from WTF Pass instead of 5 from Chicki Porn, You get them $15 cheaper through the TBP/PU link. That's $19.95 instead of $34.95. Not only that, they don't have pre-checked cross selling, unlike Chicki Porn. So that's where my money went.
The first results show how out of tune I am with the majority of PU members. It also shows how in tune the TBP staff are with PU members. I voted 5 days, but for people who are here every day, it is almost certainly better to have 2 or 3 day polls, as it continually engages them with a new topic.
Great review Admiral, thanks for the information. I have to admit I wouldn't have thought of touching this site with a bargepole until your review. My expectations were as low as yours. Not many cons, I would have expected many more.
Great thorough review RB. I like the idea of amateur girls rather than glossy professional, but closeups leaves me cold, and it sounds like the site has more than its share of faults.
But is it sexy? I've seen this site advertised but it doesn't appeal to me at all. I'm not sure who it will appeal to, but at least they're trying to break out of the porn norm, I suppose.
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